Get it right? Double foul while shot in the air.

[NoFussRef]

Originally Posted by SWMOzebra

+1

Was the push so bad that you thought it necessary to penalize?

Yeppers. I too tend to always go with first-come-first-served on sitchs like this, however this was an easy one for me, they both saw it coming, this was no "collision" and the push was at the exact same moment as the block.

I am far more likely to hand out doubles on the excessive bump-and-grind on the block than I am on a bad screen. It was B's decision to try and plow through while extending his arms into A's upper body. I had a great look at this one.

As for shot being long gone, the point-guard didn't wait for the screen to drive he stepped back and put up a jumper just as the offense was trying to set up.

(This was 8th grade Quad-A Boys. Even both coaches liked the double call. AP happened to be B's ball so I guess it might have looked right, even though we should've gone POI and they shouldn't have lost the next AP.)

Thanks again to this forum for helping new and old improve.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by NoFussRef

I am far more likely to hand out doubles on the excessive bump-and-grind on the block than I am on a bad screen.

Agree. And I am far more likely to hand out such double fouls early in the season, as well as early in the game.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by NoFussRef

Yeppers. I too tend to always go with first-come-first-served on sitchs like this, however this was an easy one for me, they both saw it coming, this was no "collision" and the push was at the exact same moment as the block.

I am far more likely to hand out doubles on the excessive bump-and-grind on the block than I am on a bad screen. It was B's decision to try and plow through while extending his arms into A's upper body. I had a great look at this one.

As for shot being long gone, the point-guard didn't wait for the screen to drive he stepped back and put up a jumper just as the offense was trying to set up.

(This was 8th grade Quad-A Boys. Even both coaches liked the double call. AP happened to be B's ball so I guess it might have looked right, even though we should've gone POI and they shouldn't have lost the next AP.)

Thanks again to this forum for helping new and old improve.

If the push was as bad as you say maybe just go with the foul on Team B if that was the one that everyone say.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

If the push was as bad as you say maybe just go with the foul on Team B if that was the one that everyone say.

He said it was an easy call to go DF, why are we questioning this as if he's calling a DF on a screen every game?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

He said it was an easy call to go DF, why are we questioning this as if he's calling a DF on a screen every game?

Because a DF on an illegal screen is a cop-out 99.9% of the time. Hell, a DF itself is a cop-out at least 95% of the time.

Either call the screen or call the push, don't call both. It would be just like calling a DF on a block/charge because the defender didn't have LGP but the offensive player lowered his shoulder.

[NoFussRef]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Because a DF on an illegal screen is a cop-out 99.9% of the time. Hell, a DF itself is a cop-out at least 95% of the time.

Either call the screen or call the push, don't call both. It would be just like calling a DF on a block/charge because the defender didn't have LGP but the offensive player lowered his shoulder.

I think a cop-out would have been going no-call. Rewarding either player with a call on the other would also be a travesty. Yes this is a HTBT sitch, but since I was there and can tell you with absolute certainty that even though this is a "white-buffalo" it is what it is.

We can debate in circles about the use of a DF in any sitch, and you can statisticize when a DF is/is not a cop-out, however the original post was in regards to whether going to the AP arrow or POI is the correct procedure.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by NoFussRef

Rewarding either player with a call on the other would also be a travesty.

Eh, I'd like to see the video before agreeing with you on this. Since I won't, I'll simply withhold further comment.