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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 01:17pm
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Had makeup games tonight because schools were closed for icy road yesterday.
This school had also had home games on Tuesday. The principal made a point of telling me how much he appreciated us sticking it out during the stoppage. He went on to say he had voted against the pay raise at the last meeting, but he now intended to vote for it when it comes up again in the summer.
Is there a point that I am missing here?
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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 01:33pm
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1. If a pay raise is accepted, the guys who didn't sit out can thank the ones who did.

2. If a pay raise is not accepted, the guys who sat out can thank the ones who didn't.
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Is there a point that I am missing here?
This was the point. Snaq's (and others) thought that the walkout would cause principals to vote for the pay raise. This guy said that the opposite was the case. Was he lying in my face for some other reason?
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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 01:52pm
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This was the point. Snaq's (and others) thought that the walkout would cause principals to vote for the pay raise. This guy said that the opposite was the case. Was he lying in my face for some other reason?
Naw, he was just petting you, rubbing your ears, patting your tummy and saying "good doggie". And by golly, it worked, didn't it?.
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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 01:58pm
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Naw, he was just petting you, rubbing your ears, patting your tummy and saying "good doggie". And by golly, it worked, didn't it?.
I am sorry but that is funny.

BTW, I have never had an extensive conversation with a Principle about anything officiating other than when I ejected a coach years ago. And that was only done because the form we file goes to the Principal of the school on every ejection (Special Report). Even former coaches that have turned into Principals I have never talked to them about anything other than where they were going to be if we needed them to get rid of some fans. I would never talk to them about pay in an extensive way. But obviously in LA they do things differently in more than choice of belt.

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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 04:14pm
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But obviously in LA they do things differently in more than choice of belt.
At $36 a game and a pay raise every 21 years, I'm surprised that they can even afford belts.

I wonder how many pay raises that JAR's ol' buddy, the principal, has had in the last 21 years.
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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 04:15pm
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At $36 a game and a pay raise every 21 years, I'm surprised that they can even afford belts.

I wonder how many pay raises that JAR's ol' buddy, the principal, has had in the last 21 years.
They cannot afford the more expensive pants and get them hemmed that is for sure.

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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 04:27pm
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I would never talk to them about pay in an extensive way.
Yep, another good idea. Never talk extensively about pay to one of the guys who votes on whether you get your raise or not. That couldn't accomplish anything. Just stay home and refuse to work, even though you have an agreement in place to do so. That makes sense. Better yet, those guys should have walked out at halftime of the games on Tuesday. They'd probably have given us an immediate raise then.
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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 04:33pm
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Now I see why my friend that moved to LA stopped officiating.

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Yep, another good idea. Never talk extensively about pay to one of the guys who votes on whether you get your raise or not. That couldn't accomplish anything. Just stay home and refuse to work, even though you have an agreement in place to do so. That makes sense. Better yet, those guys should have walked out at halftime of the games on Tuesday. They'd probably have given us an immediate raise then.
I did not say you couldn't talk to them, I said I do not see the reason why to talk to them. I am a President of an organization and I do not talk to any Principal about pay of officials. Then again I do not work in a system where the state can "price fix" what everyone does throughout a large state. And I would not know when or how I would get into that kind of conversation. I am not going to call them. I guess I would talk to them before a game, but not likely. That is usually what the AD is for. But then again this is why your state is the laughing stock in this area (as well as some mechanical things you have done over the years too). Then again, talk away and still get paid less than the person you are talking to for the time he/she is at the game. The fact you keep standing up for this crap is telling to me.

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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 04:41pm
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I did not say you couldn't talk to them, I said I do not see the reason why to talk to them.
Maybe we should hire you as our representative, with your great communication skills.
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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 04:22pm
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Naw, he was just petting you, rubbing your ears, patting your tummy and saying "good doggie". And by golly, it worked, didn't it?.
Right. So you would have just snatched the check from his hand, said "Thanks for nothing, you tightwad so and so," and walked out. Nobody is gonna rub your ears and pat your tummy.
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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 05:31pm
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Nobody is gonna rub your ears and pat your tummy.
In place of giving me more than one small pay raise in the last 21 years? I'd have to say that you're completely correct in saying that I wouldn't be purring like you, JAR.
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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 05:51pm
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Since when do people get criticized for keeping their word? This makes no sense to me.
JAR is keeping his word and the part of his bargain with his association and the LHSAA. The fact that the LHSAA is not doing the same is not really his problem at the moment. Two wrongs don't make a right. Everythng else is just an example of people trying to justify their behavior. You don't need to justify doing what you said you would do.
I respect JAR sticking to his guns during this difficult time and wish more people would honor their words like him, the world would be a much better place

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Old Sun Feb 06, 2011, 06:23pm
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Since when do people get criticized for keeping their word? This makes no sense to me.
JAR is keeping his word and the part of his bargain with his association and the LHSAA. The fact that the LHSAA is not doing the same is not really his problem at the moment. Two wrongs don't make a right. Everythng else is just an example of people trying to justify their behavior. You don't need to justify doing what you said you would do.
I respect JAR sticking to his guns during this difficult time and wish more people would honor their words like him, the world would be a much better place
It's fine if he wants to keep his association's bargain -- that's a personal choice. What's slimy is that their association doesn't even hesitate in keeping OTHER association's bargains even though they have no reason to do so.
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