Louisiana Officials Possible Strike?

[fullor30]

You must be a coach......

[APG]

Originally Posted by fullor30

You must be a coach......

Or a spam bot...

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by jrutledge

funny i have lost more games to teacher's strikes and contract disputes than i ever had over a dispute with my money. But it is about the kids. That always cracks me up when someone says that i must do something for the kids as an official that will never see many of these kids again, but the people that see them everyday and know them by first name are exempt from that process.

Peace

amen brutha!!!!

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Public schoolteacher salaries are typically public record. If I were the officials, I would've had these numbers at hand whenever anyone suggested officials should work for the same amount of money or get one raise in 21 years.

I've suggested that officials pay raises in Oregon (statewide payscale) should be tied to teacher pay raises....same percent for both. The question arises about what the teacher pay is since each district has a different scale but it shouldn't be hard to come up with an average percentage raise for all teachers in the state. It will probably never happen as they want to be able to cut/freeze our pay at will even when they get a raise just so they can save a few bucks....as long as they get theirs.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I've suggested that officials pay raises in Oregon (statewide payscale) should be tied to teacher pay raises, same percent for both. The question arises about what the teacher pay is since each district has a different scale but it shouldn't be hard to come up with an average percentage raise for all teachers in the state.

Which is exactly how we do it here in the Constitution State. No more negotiations, or contracts signed, in smoke filled rooms.

[zm1283]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I don't get what you're saying. Are you saying one should be able to earn more working one JV game than working one varsity game? In case there was confusion, I'm saying that one should earn more working a varsity game than a JV game. In the case of Louisiana, I could earn more working one JV game locally than a varsity game in Louisiana.

I can earn as much working a JH game here with 6-minute quarters as guys earn in varsity games in LA.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by zm1283

I can earn as much working a JH game here with 6-minute quarters as guys earn in varsity games in LA.

Catholic school eighth grade "varsity" game, single game, with seven minute periods: $54.00
High school subvarsity games (includes middle school): $57.25
High school varsity games: $88.28

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Let me ask you this, how do you propose your brethren in Louisiana go about getting higher wages? It's obvious you don't agree with how those in the four chapters went about it.

I don't have the answer. I have no part in the negotiation process. I play the hand I am dealt. If it reaches the point where it is costing me money to call games, and I no longer enjoy doing it, I will check out the private school association or give it up altogether.

As far as how the four chapters handled it, no I certainly don't agree with it. In the first place it was doomed to fail, if they thought they would get a pay raise signed now, because of the limited support given the walkout, even among the officials. Mainly, this is unacceptable because it fails to live up to an agreement which was signed by both sides. A local principal told me there is actually a signed contract between school and association. He couldn't tell me exactly what it says, because he never actually reads it, just signs it. The piece of paper is not the important part to me. I am a part of a group which has promised to do a job, so I intend to do my part. Expanding our normal area to cover games deserted by others is not quite as easy to justify, but I see the principle as the same, mainly because the schools affected by the limited area have no power to make changes on their own, even if they are inclined to do so.

No one commented on my truck driving analogy.

I own a Mack truck. I haul mainly for myself, but occasionally for others. If I have been hauling for you for a hundred bucks a trip and decide I need more, I should call you to discuss terms, right in the middle of a load.
"Hey, boss. I'd like to keep hauling for you, but the next load is gonna cost a hundred and fifty. What? Too pricey? Fine, that's up to you, but in that case I'm just gonna dump this load on the side of the road."

I don't see the difference in this and our situation. If there is one, perhaps someone could explain. If a trucker dumps a load for one of you, let me know, I'll come get it if necessary, even if that would be considered stabbing the trucker in the back who dumped it there.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

I don't see the difference in this and our situation. If there is one, perhaps someone could explain. If a trucker dumps a load for one of you, let me know, I'll come get it if necessary, even if that would be considered stabbing the trucker in the back who dumped it there.

I'm sure that you'll never, ever see the difference either, JAR. 100% sure.

And the back stabbing analogy is right on too imo.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I'm sure that you'll never, ever see the difference either, JAR. 100% sure.

And the back stabbing analogy is right on too imo.

So you'd kiss up to the trucker who dumped your stuff and allow only him to go back and pick it up? Seriously?

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by just another ref

So you'd kiss up to the trucker who dumped your stuff and allow only him to go back and pick it up? Seriously?

You don't get it. Your analogy is a horrible one for many obvious reasons.

[just another ref]

And one more thing, the school who offered to switch to our association if we covered them during the walkout, (this was called stealing, poaching, and a miserable practice, I believe) was with us before switching to their current association last season. That's right. They stole/poached them from us. Even though the crossover turned out not to happen, I'm now told the switch will now take place anyway. I'm also told that the coaches wanted to switch back this season.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by VaTerp

You don't get it. Your analogy is a horrible one for many obvious reasons.

Let's hear them.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

And one more thing, the school who offered to switch to our association if we covered them during the walkout, (this was called stealing, poaching, and a miserable practice, I believe) was with us before switching to their current association last season. That's right. They stole/poached them from us. Even though the crossover turned out not to happen, I'm now told the switch will now take place anyway. I'm also told that the coaches wanted to switch back this season.

Is that the association that's covering the games that are 150 miles from you? The ones that you were going to drive 300 miles round trip to do the other day?

The principals and coaches will always switch back and forth to different associations in order to save a few bucks and maybe get a few breaks (in their minds) in the officiating. And why shouldn't they if they have competing associations willing and eager to stab their fellow officials in the back to gain a few games? Hell, who cares if the games only pay $36; you're getting more of them.

You just don't get it it. The LHSSAA is playing you off against each other and laughing their heads off at you while they're doing so. And until you do get it, you'll be working games for peanuts and kissing azz to do 'em.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Is that the association that's covering the games that are 150 miles from you? The ones that you were going to drive 300 miles round trip to do the other day?

no

The principals and coaches will always switch back and forth to different associations in order to save a few bucks and maybe get a few breaks (in their minds) in the officiating.

You're rattling without knowing what you're talking about now. (imagine that)
They're going to save a few bucks? The game fees are the same. The mileage is the same. The money is the same.