Pass to himself

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by frozenrope22

Thanks for the information. It ill be interesting to see how the parents react to this information when I see them again.

Do you also want to explain "over the back" and "reaching"?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Do you also want to explain "over the back" and "reaching"?

"Moving screen! Moving screen! C'mon ref, you gotta get that one!"

[cmhjordan23]

Isn't this rule different in the NCAA or NBA. I know it's different in one of them.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by cmhjordan23

Isn't this rule different in the NCAA or NBA. I know it's different in one of them.

Retrieving one's own ariball is a violation in the NBA.

[johnsonboys03]

I had a player get upset with me for calling a violation when he passed the ball off the glass to himself for a dunk. It was very obvious it was a pass not a missed shot. I thought for sure I got it right but not one hundred percent.

[APG]

Originally Posted by johnsonboys03

I had a player get upset with me for calling a violation when he passed the ball off the glass to himself for a dunk. It was very obvious it was a pass not a missed shot. I thought for sure I got it right but not one hundred percent.

Play on...I'm not a mind reader. If a player throws it off the glass 99.9 percent of officials will judge it to be a try. I'm not going to be in that .1 percent. Plus I believe there's a case book play that says it it legal to throw the ball off of one's equipment and retrieve the ball. Someone will come along and post it I'm sure.

Also, by rule and definition, a player can not pass the ball to himself. It is impossible.

[johnsonboys03]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Play on...I'm not a mind reader. If a player throws it off the glass 99.9 percent of officials will judge it to be a try. I'm not going to be in that .1 percent. Plus I believe there's a case book play that says it it legal to throw the ball off of one's equipment and retrieve the ball. Someone will come along and post it I'm sure.

Also, by rule and definition, a player can not pass the ball to himself. It is impossible.

What if a player where stuck in a trap situation or just a situation where he or she lost her dribble and he or she throw it over the heads of the defender and then goes and retrieves it on the other side?
what would be the difference?

[APG]

Originally Posted by johnsonboys03

What if a player where stuck in a trap situation or just a situation where he or she lost her dribble and he or she throw it over the heads of the defender and then goes and retrieves it on the other side?
what would be the difference?

I don't see how this play is even related to throwing the ball off the backboard. The difference in this play is that it's a travel. Case book play 4.44.3 Situation D covers this.

Look at case book play 9.5

9.5 SITUATION A: A1 dribbles and comes to a stop after which he/she throws the ball against: (a) his/her own backboard; (b) the opponent’s backboard; or (c) an official and catches the ball after each.

RULING: Legal in (a); a team’s own backboard is considered part of that team’s “equipment” and may be used. In (b) and (c), A1 has violated; throwing the ball against an opponent’s backboard or an official constitutes another dribble, provided A1 is first to touch the ball after it strikes the official or the board. (4-4-5; 4-15-1, 2; Fundamental 19)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by johnsonboys03

What if a player where stuck in a trap situation or just a situation where he or she lost her dribble and he or she throw it over the heads of the defender and then goes and retrieves it on the other side?
what would be the difference?

If he throws it off the backboard, legal.
If he throws it in the vicinity of the rim, legal (I'll assume it was try).

If neither of the above apply, either travel or illegal dribble, depending on the circumstance.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by johnsonboys03

I had a player get upset with me for calling a violation when he passed the ball off the glass to himself for a dunk. It was very obvious it was a pass not a missed shot. I thought for sure I got it right but not one hundred percent.

Exactly what violation did you call?

[johnsonboys03]

I called a travel. Didn't realize there was a diff between opponentbackboard and there own. Thanks... I see I was wrong on this one.

[VaTerp]

Originally Posted by johnsonboys03

I called a travel. Didn't realize there was a diff between opponentbackboard and there own. Thanks... I see I was wrong on this one.

Ouch.

This is why if I'm not sure about a call, I almost always err on the side of play-on. I would hate to be the guy that took away a highlight reel play simply because I thought I knew a rule and then find out I was completely wrong.

Not trying to be overly critical as we all make mistakes. But it is a reminder of why I think it's a good idea to err on the side of play on unless you're absolutely sure there's a violation there.