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Old Sat Jan 08, 2011, 07:06pm
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Fine with me. Create a signal to cover all illegal dribbles.



A PC foul can also occur when there's no PC, yet we still call it a PC foul.

Just apply the airborne shooter principle and call it a TC foul instead of a PC foul. There's no need for two separate distinctions.

Not sure what you are talking about in the bold.

If the airborne shooter releases the ball for a try then there is no TC, a crash after the release and before the shooter returns to the ground is a PC foul but TC has ended.

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Old Sat Jan 08, 2011, 07:08pm
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Not sure what you are talking about in the italics.

If the airborne shooter releases the ball for a try then there is no TC, a crash after the release and before the shooter returns to the ground is a PC foul but TC has ended.
When you quote someone, it's all in italics. Better off using bold or coloring instead to isolate a portion.

His point is that PC has ended, too, yet it's considered a PC foul. The same extension could easily apply and call it a TC foul; it's just semantics.
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4.12.1 Sit A says that the PC provisions continue with an ABS until they touch the floor. TC does not.
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4.12.1 Sit A says that the PC provisions continue with an ABS until they touch the floor. TC does not.
PC does not continue, only the provision for a PC foul. This is just semantics and could easily apply to TC for this situation. "A foul by an airborne shooter is considered a TC foul."
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Not sure what you are talking about in the bold.

If the airborne shooter releases the ball for a try then there is no TC, a crash after the release and before the shooter returns to the ground is a PC foul but TC has ended.
There is also no PC, even though the foul is considered a PC foul. No idea why that's difficult to understand.

Eliminate the PC foul, and re-word team control to include the airborne shooter rule, just the player control rule was written to include the airborne shooter.
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