UCLA vs. KU game

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Seddy

I'm not arguing whether or not it's a foul, just the timing and severity of it.

If Sirmons holds his whistle, KU's bench and Bill Self probably briefly "ask" for a call and then move on to overtime.

The only POE in Men's basketball is "Call the game by the rules no matter the score or the situation." That is what they have asked the officials to do this year. So if this official does not call a foul that he thinks is a foul, then he will not be seen in the best light. And yes a play like this can and will affect his standing in the NCAA Tournament if he is eligible. So who cares what a coach thinks if in your judgment a foul should have been called. It either is a foul or it is not a foul. Who cares what time of the game it takes place?

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Seddy

I'm not arguing whether or not it's a foul, just the timing and severity of it.

And if the foul hadda gone for UCLA, you would have told everybody what a great call it was.


In the words of that noted humanitarian and Nobel Peace Prize winner, Mother Teresa.."Piss off,fanboy."

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Seddy

Judge for yourselves....

NCAA - Men's College Basketball Teams, Scores, Stats, News, Standings, Rumors - ESPN

You say "ticky tack," I say "tackle." If it had been a UCLA player in the same situation, the coach would have thought it was a great call. :shrug:

Fanboys are so boring.

[Spence]

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[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by Seddy

the fact that this call literally decided the game.

The call didn't decide the game. Neither did the foul. The player that maintained their composure and sank the free throws decided the game. Period!

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Seddy

Nope, just a coach understandably frustrated with a ticky-tack call deciding a game in which his kids fought hard throughout and battled back to tie.

The problem with refs wanting to hide behind the "a foul is a foul is a foul" argument and make the art of officiating black and white is the fact that this call literally decided the game. I guarantee you that similar "fouls" earlier in the game were let go. I'd venture a guess that there's a part of the official (Doug Sirmons) who wishes he hadn't blown his whistle.

This post sounds like a fan boy complaining because his team lost.

MTD, Sr.


P.S. Rock Chalk, Jayhawk, Kaaaayyyyy UUUUUUUUU!!!!

[dbking]

I am amazed that all of you have watched this video and no one has mentioned that there was a double whistle on this play!

Watch T in the video. He is running to the play with a fist in the air.

BTW, I am not a Rock Chalker.

[APG]

Originally Posted by dbking

I am amazed that all of you have watched this video and no one has mentioned that there was a double whistle on this play!

Watch T in the video. He is running to the play with a fist in the air.

BTW, I am not a Rock Chalker.

Good find. You can clearly see the trail official with a fist up when the contact occurs.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Good find. You can clearly see the trail official with a fist up when the contact occurs.

But I'm sure the T would like to take that whistle back if he had a second chance.

[Rob1968]

Our assignor wants us, as T or C, to stay with the play such as this one, that crosses the court, to the other side of the lane. The fact that T had a call on this play seems consistent with that idea.
A second thought: I study the game not just in the books, but by watching parts of as many college games as I can. Some of the best officials have become recognizable, and that's the case with this game.
Finally, with a video such as this one, I watch it from the camera angle, but try to imagine what the view was from the calling official's position. From the camera angle, on this play, at the speed of the game, it's difficult to make a firm judgement. But from the position of either T or C, the call is apparent.
I guess that's why we work the games from the floor and not the stands. . .