Back Court Question

[BillyMac]

The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control; the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball in frontcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control; the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball in frontcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt.

Not quite...

the team in control must be the last to thouch the ball before it goes to tte backcourt.

This is NOT the same as being the last to touch the ball in the frontcourt.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control; the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball in frontcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The team in control must be the last to thouch the ball before it goes to the backcourt.

The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control; the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball in frontcourt before it goes to the backcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt.

Better ???

[APG]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control; the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball in frontcourt before it goes to the backcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt.

Better ???

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Team A must be the last to touch the ball while the ball had a frontcourt status? Cause as you have it above, one might think that Team A must touch the ball while it they were in the frontcourt. We know this isn't true since a backcourt violation would occur if a Team A player threw the ball from the backcourt and it hit an official in the frontcourt and it rebounded back to the thrower.

Maybe I'm just nitpicking too much though.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Team A must be the last to touch the ball while the ball had a frontcourt status?

No, because A need not touch the ball while it has FC status. Think of the pass from BC that hits an official in the FC and rebounds to BC. A never touched the ball while it had FC status, but it's still a violation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No, because A need not touch the ball while it has FC status. Think of the pass from BC that hits an official in the FC and rebounds to BC. A never touched the ball while it had FC status, but it's still a violation.

Part of the rule states "last to touch the ball in the FC," but the other article clearly makes bob's play here a violation.

Bottom line, always listen to bob.

[APG]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No, because A need not touch the ball while it has FC status. Think of the pass from BC that hits an official in the FC and rebounds to BC. A never touched the ball while it had FC status, but it's still a violation.

Like I said, I think I was just overthinking the wording. You're right...as usual.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

You're right...as usual.

You've got something on your nose...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control; the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball in frontcourt before it goes to the backcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt.

Better ???

Not really. The red text is a bit ambiguous in that implies that team A touches the ball in the front court. Really, it is could be

last to have touched the ball while the ball was in the frontcourt

That clarifies that it is not where they touched the ball that matters.

[ref2coach]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not really. The red text is a bit ambiguous in that implies that team A touches the ball in the front court. Really, it is could be

last to have touched the ball while the ball had frontcourt status

That clarifies that it is not where they touched the ball that matters.

Would the addition is Red be more accurate?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

Would the addition is Red be more accurate?

No.

A never has to touch the ball while it has FC status.

For that matter, A never has to touch the ball while it has BC status.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ref2coach

Would the addition is Red be more accurate?

I don't think either one would be more accurate. I see your modificatoin as meaning exactly the same as my words.

[BillyMac]

I'm confused. Too many colors. Red. Green. Thank God no blue. Is this statement correct all the time, or not?

"The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control; the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball in frontcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I'm confused. Too many colors. Is this statement correct all the time, or not?

"The four elements for having a backcourt violation are: there must be team control; the ball must have achieved frontcourt status; the team in team control must be the last to touch the ball in frontcourt before it goes into the backcourt; that same team must be the first to touch after the ball has been in the backcourt."

Now it is.