Backcourt Violation Help

[CDurham]

Originally Posted by hoopsaddict

Yes you have a backcourt violation when A1 is the first to touch the ball as it goes into the backcourt.

That is what I have. Line is part of it so Backcourt

[Adam]

Originally Posted by CDurham

That is what I have. Line is part of it so Backcourt

Okay, how about this one.
A1 standing in the FC, holding the ball near the division line (table side) with pressure. He looks away from the table and sees teammate A2 standing in the FC near the division line so he reaches over the line and throws a bounces pass to A2. It bounces twice before A2 catches it, standing in the FC. The first bounce is in the BC, and the second bounce is in the FC.

What's the call?

[CDurham]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Okay, how about this one.
A1 standing in the FC, holding the ball near the division line (table side) with pressure. He looks away from the table and sees teammate A2 standing in the FC near the division line so he reaches over the line and throws a bounces pass to A2. It bounces twice before A2 catches it, standing in the FC. The first bounce is in the BC, and the second bounce is in the FC.

What's the call?

Nothing if its caught on the 2nd bounce. The ball had Frontcourt status.

If caught on the first, the ball had Backcourt status. Violation

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by CDurham

Nothing if its caught on the 2nd bounce. The ball had Frontcourt status.

Let's work through this one. I'll answer the first three:

Team control? Yes
Ball had frontcourt status? Yes
A was last to touch before the ball had backcourt status? Yes.

Final question: Was A the first to touch the ball after it had backcourt status?

[Adam]

Read 9-9-1, then see if you still think it's legal.

[CDurham]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Read 9-9-1, then see if you still think it's legal.

Sorry I don't have my books with me. So even though it was caught on the 2nd bounce which hit in the frontcourt it is still a Violation?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by 9-9-3

A player shall not be the first to touch a ball after it has been in team control in the frontcourt, if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt before it went to the backcourt.

You'll note, it doesn't say "first to touch the ball in the backcourt."

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by CDurham

Sorry I don't have my books with me. So even though it was caught on the 2nd bounce which hit in the frontcourt it is still a Violation?

Key phrase: (paraphrasing) Cannot be first to touch ball after it gains backcourt status after having team control in frontcourt.

[CDurham]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Key phrase: (paraphrasing) Cannot be first to touch ball after it gains backcourt status after having team control in frontcourt.

Still a little confused but okay. I sort of get it