The Spin Move

[Bad Zebra]

Anyone have a theory as to why it's seldom called at high level D1?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Anyone have a theory as to why it's seldom called at high level D1?

Game interrupter.

I'm not advocating that view, just offering it in answer to the question.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Anyone have a theory as to why it's seldom called at high level D1?

Not only do they not call it, tv replays it and brags on what a beautiful move it was.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Not only do they not call it, tv replays it and brags on what a beautiful move it was.

And then when the kid who does it in my game gets called for it, I get, "hey ref, ever watch any basketball?"

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by mbyron

And then when the kid who does it in my game gets called for it, I get, "hey ref, ever watch any basketball?"

Part of my pregame to the boys includes something like this:

"We are not NBA officials, and you are not NBA players. Know where your pivot foot is. Dribble with your hand on top of the ball. Every time you watch Kobe and Lebron on Sportscenter, you will see something that is pretty to watch, and most likely will be illegal in this game tonight."

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by just another ref

"We are not NBA officials, and you are not NBA players. Know where your pivot foot is. Dribble with your hand on top of the ball. Every time you watch Kobe and Lebron on Sportscenter, you will see something that is pretty to watch, and most likely will be illegal in this game tonight."

I know what you mean. But that's about 50 words longer than my captains' meeting spiel.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I know what you mean. But that's about 50 words longer than my captains' meeting spiel.

Wow? You have a four word captains' meeting? Can anybody beat that? How about a three word meeting? Winner gets to select a prize from the top shelf.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Wow? You have a four word captains' meeting? Can anybody beat that? How about a three word meeting? Winner gets to select a prize from the top shelf.

Anybody got a question?

Anybody gotta question?

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Part of my pregame to the boys includes something like this:

"We are not NBA officials, and you are not NBA players. Know where your pivot foot is. Dribble with your hand on top of the ball. Every time you watch Kobe and Lebron on Sportscenter, you will see something that is pretty to watch, and most likely will be illegal in this game tonight."

Please tell me you're being sarcastic and don't really say that...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Please tell me you're being sarcastic and don't really say that...

Quite serious, actually. Some of them even nod knowingly.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Quite serious, actually. Some of them even nod knowingly.

To each their own I guess but I'll keep this professional and just say ...completely unnecessary

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Quite serious, actually. Some of them even nod knowingly.

My grandfather used to smile and nod when he couldn't hear what we were saying. They may be nodding, but I doubt they are listening. If of the ones who listen, I'd be willing to bet the vast majority forget what you said by the time you say, "any questions?"

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by mbyron

And then when the kid who does it in my game gets called for it, I get, "hey ref, ever watch any basketball?"

"Not tonight, coach, that's for sure!"

[JoeT]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Anyone have a theory as to why it's seldom called at high level D1?

Out on a limb here, but maybe there's some influence from the Non-Basketball Association involved.

Recently, I've seen couple coaches teach a version of the spin move that was clearly illegal. One referred to it as the "Earl Monroe" move, so I went back and looked at some old Pearl footage. The coach had been teaching a move where the player essentially whips the ball around the body with one hand while making a running reverse pivot - looked illegal as hell to me. Monroe, on the other hand, incorporated a dribble into his spin, switch his dribbling hand as the ball was behind him - gorgeous and perfectly legal to my eye.

See:
YouTube - Ultimate Earl "The Pearl" Monroe MIX