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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 07:11am
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As I understand it, it is legal these days to have a simultaneous dribble and step followed by two steps.
With a spin move it's always dribble then plant, then two steps. Sometimes there's an extra replant step(now we're at four steps) in there during the spin. Is this three steps after the dribble move legal? Nobody ever calls it because it looks like a fluid motion. 
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 07:25am
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Not sure what you're getting at, but I'll try to answer you. There is no restriction to the number of steps a dribbler can take between legal dribbles. He can take 10 steps if he can squeeze them in. During a spin move, what sometimes happens is that the ball comes to rest in the dribbler's hand, in the official's opinion. If it does, that ends the dribble by rule, and a pivot foot is now established at the same time. If the player continues with the spin move and tries to dribble again, he can be called for travelling if he moved that pivot foot beyond legally allowed limits, or he could be called for an illegal 2nd dribble if the pivot foot stayed legal but the the player dribbled again.
Is that what you were looking for?
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 08:46am
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 09:24am
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 09:30am
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It's not that difficult to spot. Watch the feet.
A player ends his dribble with both feet on the floor, spins to the right, stepping with his right foot, then steps with his left foot(pivot), around to square up to the basket. That's traveling.
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 09:32am
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 10:42am
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I can also tell you that I have demonstrated to my players several different post spin moves that are all legal, but appear at first glance to be travels. I had one parent of a post player try to tell me I was teaching his daughter to travel, until I went through it in excrutiating slow motion - and he was dumbfounded.
You have to time when you pick up the ball and you will be fine if you do. and if you do it quickly, there will be many who think you travelled.
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 12:07pm
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As an offical, BktBallRef, we are not looking at the feet of the offensive player. We are refing the defense. Ref the defense. And by the way, we ref the defense. You know that as the experienced official on this site, right? 'k.
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 12:09pm
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If you never see the feet, do you never call travels? You have to see it to call it.
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 12:33pm
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 12:37pm
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 05:42pm
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Okay, Tony was not clear. Apparently I was not clear also. I do not stare at the offensive player's feet to look for a travel. I am aware of his pivot foot and can determine when he has lifted his foot before the dribble to call travel and to let him shoot or pass when he has lifted his pivot, before the pivot returns to the floor. This while officiating the defense. I hope that clarifies any misunderstandings. Thanks.
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Mon Mar 29, 2004, 08:48pm
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Try to watch for some spin moves on tv tonight. If you have tivo or are taping a game check it out in slow motion. You'll probably see a sequence like this, 1-dribble, 2-plant left foot, 3- pivot on left foot, 4-land on right foot, 5-land on left foot, 6-jump and shoot. If the dribble comes after the first plant then it's legit, but it rarely does. Amare Stoudemire is playing tonight at 9pm est and he does this move at least twice a game.
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