The Spin Move

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Anybody got a question? Anybody gotta question?

"Questions?"

What do I win?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

"Questions?"

What do I win?

Contest sponsors and their families are ineligible.

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by mbyron

And then when the kid who does it in my game gets called for it, I get, "hey ref, ever watch any basketball?"

"Not tonight, coach, that's for sure!"

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Part of my pregame to the boys includes something like this:

"We are not NBA officials, and you are not NBA players. Know where your pivot foot is. Dribble with your hand on top of the ball. Every time you watch Kobe and Lebron on Sportscenter, you will see something that is pretty to watch, and most likely will be illegal in this game tonight."

Please tell me you're being sarcastic and don't really say that...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Please tell me you're being sarcastic and don't really say that...

Quite serious, actually. Some of them even nod knowingly.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Quite serious, actually. Some of them even nod knowingly.

To each their own I guess but I'll keep this professional and just say ...completely unnecessary

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by eyezen

To each their own I guess but I'll keep this professional and just say ...completely unnecessary

Unnecessary? You could say that. Just think of it as providing information they can use in a language they might understand.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Quite serious, actually. Some of them even nod knowingly.

My grandfather used to smile and nod when he couldn't hear what we were saying. They may be nodding, but I doubt they are listening. If of the ones who listen, I'd be willing to bet the vast majority forget what you said by the time you say, "any questions?"

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

My grandfather used to smile and nod when he couldn't hear what we were saying. They may be nodding, but I doubt they are listening. If of the ones who listen, I'd be willing to bet the vast majority forget what you said by the time you say, "any questions?"

Yep. (nodding) I understand and agree with what you are saying.

[JoeT]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Anyone have a theory as to why it's seldom called at high level D1?

Out on a limb here, but maybe there's some influence from the Non-Basketball Association involved.

Recently, I've seen couple coaches teach a version of the spin move that was clearly illegal. One referred to it as the "Earl Monroe" move, so I went back and looked at some old Pearl footage. The coach had been teaching a move where the player essentially whips the ball around the body with one hand while making a running reverse pivot - looked illegal as hell to me. Monroe, on the other hand, incorporated a dribble into his spin, switch his dribbling hand as the ball was behind him - gorgeous and perfectly legal to my eye.

See:
YouTube - Ultimate Earl "The Pearl" Monroe MIX

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

My grandfather used to smile and nod when he couldn't hear what we were saying. They may be nodding, but I doubt they are listening. If of the ones who listen, I'd be willing to bet the vast majority forget what you said by the time you say, "any questions?"

Agreed. My captains speech is as short as possible, and I try and make it shorter every season. Not only is it a waste of time trying to educate them on these pearls of wisdom, what's the point in only telling just the captains? Do you think they are going to go back to their teammates and huddle everyone together and say "OK guys, this is not the NBA..."?

[Juulie Downs]

Originally Posted by Smitty

what's the point in only telling just the captains? Do you think they are going to go back to their teammates and huddle everyone together and say "OK guys, this is not the NBA..."?

They don't do that in Dallas, Dave? I know here in Portland, the captains ALWAYS bustle right back and have a little powwow in the huddle. If they don't hurry, the other players start chanting, "Tell us, too! Tell us, too!" Players just hang on the refs' every word!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Agreed. My captains speech is as short as possible, and I try and make it shorter every season. Not only is it a waste of time trying to educate them on these pearls of wisdom, what's the point in only telling just the captains? Do you think they are going to go back to their teammates and huddle everyone together and say "OK guys, this is not the NBA..."?

I've had one partner with a shorter captains meeting than mine this year. Mine: "Make sure your teammates have their earrings out. Help us with sportsmanship by taking care of your teammates so we don't have to."
His: "Put the ball in the hole and lets play ball."

I've also had the guy who needs to point to every line in the captains meeting and then explain the CE rule to the coaches. He's a great partner in spite of that though, so I learned that a long winded captains/coaches meeting does not necessarily mean a long game.

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

They don't do that in Dallas, Dave? I know here in Portland, the captains ALWAYS bustle right back and have a little powwow in the huddle. If they don't hurry, the other players start chanting, "Tell us, too! Tell us, too!" Players just hang on the refs' every word!

ROTFLMAO!

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Juulie Downs

They don't do that in Dallas, Dave? I know here in Portland, the captains ALWAYS bustle right back and have a little powwow in the huddle. If they don't hurry, the other players start chanting, "Tell us, too! Tell us, too!" Players just hang on the refs' every word!

I was going to make a joke about freshman girls, Juulie, but I thought better of it.

I'm still trying to figure out what they do in Dallas. I was the R in a freshman boys game last week and gave my quick captain's speech and asked my partner if he had anything to add, and he went off on a 2 minute rant about ridiculous topics like what happens if we have a fight, etc. I was half asleep by the time he was done, so I can only imagine how these poor kids could remain standing. My response when I'm not the 'R' and they ask me if I have anything to add: "Good luck."

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I've had one partner with a shorter captains meeting than mine this year. Mine: "Make sure your teammates have their earrings out. Help us with sportsmanship by taking care of your teammates so we don't have to."
His: "Put the ball in the hole and lets play ball."

I stole my captains speech from someone in this forum who shared it a few months ago:

Respect the game, respect your opponents, and respect the officials. Everything else is just basketball. Good luck.