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Old Mon Jan 11, 2010, 11:15pm
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There was no ripping involved. The point that I was making that the the coach on the FIRST technical was down in the corner at his end of the gym and the play occurred completely across the gym at the other end. There was nowayinhell that the coach had a good look at that play IN MY OPINION. And it was the coach that put on the show and got the "T", not the bench.

Btw, please note for the record that I also gave up taking anything that you write seriously a long, long time ago. That's why I usually don't bother responding to you.
The problem with that is the comments you were responding to were about the SECOND video and T...and as such, were completely off base.

It appeared when you came back here that you had quit being jerk to anyone who had a differenet opinion than you....basically turning a lot of decent people away from the site....but I guess I was wrong.

As for not responding to me, fine. I don't expect you to be able to keep up intellectually. Your tactics usually involve bullying and belittleing people in to submission rather than sticking to the merits....and that clearly doesn't work with me.
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Old Mon Jan 11, 2010, 11:52pm
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The problem with that is the comments you were responding to were about the SECOND video and T...and as such, were completely off base.

It appeared when you came back here that had quit being jerk to anyone who had a differenet opinion than you....basically turning a lot of decent people away from the site....but I guess I was wrong.

As for not responding to me, fine. I don't expect you to be able to keep up intellectually. Your tactics usually involve bullying and and belittleing people in to submission rather than sticking to the merits....and that clearly doesn't work with me.
Forgive me for asking this, but how do you bully someone on an internet site? What can someone do, come through the internet and kick someone's azz? And how do you submit online? Is there so much pain on the keyboard that you have to back down?

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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 03:09am
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Forgive me for asking this, but how do you bully someone on an internet site? What can someone do, come through the internet and kick someone's azz? And how do you submit online? Is there so much pain on the keyboard that you have to back down?

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When some new poster asks questions, even pretty basic questions, and he responds, more often than not, met with a condescending, holier than thou attitude, do you really think that is going to foster dialog, learning, camaraderie and cooperation? Do you think that they'll stick around and listen? Or go away? I'd bet he's run more people off with his approach than anything else here. As good as this site is and as useful as it can be, it will not help anyone who is ridiculed and run off.

He also can't stick to discussing the point. When someone doesn't bow to his opinion, he resorts to calling names or saying the others stupid. Such behaviors are typical of someone who can't compose a decent argument and can only rely on such tactics to divert the discussion from the merits.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 11:31am
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When some new poster asks questions, even pretty basic questions, and he responds, more often than not, met with a condescending, holier than thou attitude, do you really think that is going to foster dialog, learning, camaraderie and cooperation? Do you think that they'll stick around and listen? Or go away? I'd bet he's run more people off with his approach than anything else here. As good as this site is and as useful as it can be, it will not help anyone who is ridiculed and run off.

He also can't stick to discussing the point. When someone doesn't bow to his opinion, he resorts to calling names or saying the others stupid. Such behaviors are typical of someone who can't compose a decent argument and can only rely on such tactics to divert the discussion from the merits.
Honestly Camron I was being funny and joking. I did not expect a real response from you. Also if people cannot handle someone with a moniker coming at them, then they really do not need to be officiating in the first place if that is a major issue from them. For one none of us really know the people we are dealing with and we will never meet them. And folks like JR never bother me because he is like the people I am used to dealing with. He is direct and you can take it or leave it. If you do not like what he has to say, do not pay attention. I do the very same things when I see individuals at camp. I am going to tell you what I think, because at the camp is going to be much nicer and more helpful than when you have a coach in your ear. And the last time I checked, none of us are perfect. That includes me and you and the way we have responded from time to time here.

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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 09:31am
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 10:25am
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So getting back to the original idiot here - the Coach...any of you MN guys know what came of all this? Did the coach get into any trouble over this outburst? Did any of the parents of the kids he shoved around take any action through the school?
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So getting back to the original idiot here - the Coach...any of you MN guys know what came of all this? Did the coach get into any trouble over this outburst? Did any of the parents of the kids he shoved around take any action through the school?
I read in some paper article that this was the last game of the season and he skirted a one-game suspension by scheduling some kind of meaningless game this season.
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I read in some paper article that this was the last game of the season and he skirted a one-game suspension by scheduling some kind of meaningless game this season.
Is that like suspending a baseball pitcher for three games even though he pitches every fourth day?
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 11:33am
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I read in some paper article that this was the last game of the season and he skirted a one-game suspension by scheduling some kind of meaningless game this season.
There is a coach that tried that in my state and he was suspended further. And eventually the actions like that (along with a few others) the coach lost his job.

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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 01:01pm
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So getting back to the original idiot here - the Coach...any of you MN guys know what came of all this? Did the coach get into any trouble over this outburst? Did any of the parents of the kids he shoved around take any action through the school?
I was excited to see this video posted here. I went to DeLaSalle, played in the program under Thorson and am now a high school official. I can only put this video under the category of "Classic Thorson".

To say Coach Thorson is an idiot - we'll, I think you would be in small company in that group.

No, he is not going to get nominated for any "Sportsmanship Awards", but don't think that it will bother him one bit. If you don't think his players fed off thatenergy, you would be dead wrong. Also don't think that type of behavior (or any complaining) amongst his players would be tolerated by him.

DeLaSalle perennially plays this playoff game vs. Holy Angels as both teams come out of sections. I'm sure there was much anticipation leading up to this game. I am an official, and would have definitely been swifter with the first technical. Coach Thorson is VERY well known. That young ref had to have known who he was officiating for prior to the game. I'm willing to bet the officials pre-gamed about Thorson, who can turn off his anger like a light switch (except this time). The official choked on his whistle and should have given Thorson the technical sooner. I'm not justifying coming out on the floor, but an earlier technical may have prevented the opportunity to do so. I'm sure there was plenty of yelling by Thorson in between those videos, and obviously when the second technical came he was ready to walk off.
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I was excited to see this video posted here. I went to DeLaSalle, played in the program under Thorson and am now a high school official. I can only put this video under the category of "Classic Thorson".

To say Coach Thorson is an idiot - we'll, I think you would be in small company in that group.

No, he is not going to get nominated for any "Sportsmanship Awards", but don't think that it will bother him one bit. If you don't think his players fed off thatenergy, you would be dead wrong. Also don't think that type of behavior (or any complaining) amongst his players would be tolerated by him.

DeLaSalle perennially plays this playoff game vs. Holy Angels as both teams come out of sections. I'm sure there was much anticipation leading up to this game. I am an official, and would have definitely been swifter with the first technical. IT wasn't very smart of him to get so far out and in the officials face. Coach Thorson is VERY well known. That young ref had to have known who he was officiating for prior to the game. I'm willing to bet the officials pre-gamed about Thorson, who can turn off his anger like a light switch (except this time). The official choked on his whistle and should have given Thorson the technical sooner. I'm not justifying coming out on the floor, but an earlier technical may have prevented the opportunity to do so. I'm sure there was plenty of yelling by Thorson in between those videos, and obviously when the second technical came he was ready to walk off.
We do not care about a fan's perspective. The coach is an idiot, just because you as a fan do not think so does not mean others would not have a different opinion. Just saying.

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I was excited to see this video posted here. I went to DeLaSalle, played in the program under Thorson and am now a high school official. I can only put this video under the category of "Classic Thorson".

To say Coach Thorson is an idiot - we'll, I think you would be in small company in that group.

No, he is not going to get nominated for any "Sportsmanship Awards", but don't think that it will bother him one bit. If you don't think his players fed off thatenergy, you would be dead wrong. Also don't think that type of behavior (or any complaining) amongst his players would be tolerated by him.

DeLaSalle perennially plays this playoff game vs. Holy Angels as both teams come out of sections. I'm sure there was much anticipation leading up to this game. I am an official, and would have definitely been swifter with the first technical. Coach Thorson is VERY well known. That young ref had to have known who he was officiating for prior to the game. I'm willing to bet the officials pre-gamed about Thorson, who can turn off his anger like a light switch (except this time). The official choked on his whistle and should have given Thorson the technical sooner. I'm not justifying coming out on the floor, but an earlier technical may have prevented the opportunity to do so. I'm sure there was plenty of yelling by Thorson in between those videos, and obviously when the second technical came he was ready to walk off.
If he would've gotten ejected during his post-technical tirade (like, IMO, he should've) would you still be as ecstatic?
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So getting back to the original idiot here - the Coach...any of you MN guys know what came of all this? Did the coach get into any trouble over this outburst? Did any of the parents of the kids he shoved around take any action through the school?
This situation happened in March of 2008 in the post season. Because he was ejected, he is forced to miss the next game, which would have been the first game of the 08-09 season. To get past this rule, the school scheduled a game with it's alumni and counted it as a game, which by state rules was/is legal. So in essence he didn't really sit out a game.

Oh well.
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Sad that the school bent over for this guy.
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This situation happened in March of 2008 in the post season. Because he was ejected, he is forced to miss the next game, which would have been the first game of the 08-09 season. To get past this rule, the school scheduled a game with it's alumni and counted it as a game, which by state rules was/is legal. So in essence he didn't really sit out a game.

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