Words can't describe.... this video.

[smginnis]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

So getting back to the original idiot here - the Coach...any of you MN guys know what came of all this? Did the coach get into any trouble over this outburst? Did any of the parents of the kids he shoved around take any action through the school?

I was excited to see this video posted here. I went to DeLaSalle, played in the program under Thorson and am now a high school official. I can only put this video under the category of "Classic Thorson".

To say Coach Thorson is an idiot - we'll, I think you would be in small company in that group.

No, he is not going to get nominated for any "Sportsmanship Awards", but don't think that it will bother him one bit. If you don't think his players fed off thatenergy, you would be dead wrong. Also don't think that type of behavior (or any complaining) amongst his players would be tolerated by him.

DeLaSalle perennially plays this playoff game vs. Holy Angels as both teams come out of sections. I'm sure there was much anticipation leading up to this game. I am an official, and would have definitely been swifter with the first technical. Coach Thorson is VERY well known. That young ref had to have known who he was officiating for prior to the game. I'm willing to bet the officials pre-gamed about Thorson, who can turn off his anger like a light switch (except this time). The official choked on his whistle and should have given Thorson the technical sooner. I'm not justifying coming out on the floor, but an earlier technical may have prevented the opportunity to do so. I'm sure there was plenty of yelling by Thorson in between those videos, and obviously when the second technical came he was ready to walk off.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by smginnis

I was excited to see this video posted here. I went to DeLaSalle, played in the program under Thorson and am now a high school official. I can only put this video under the category of "Classic Thorson".

To say Coach Thorson is an idiot - we'll, I think you would be in small company in that group.

No, he is not going to get nominated for any "Sportsmanship Awards", but don't think that it will bother him one bit. If you don't think his players fed off thatenergy, you would be dead wrong. Also don't think that type of behavior (or any complaining) amongst his players would be tolerated by him.

DeLaSalle perennially plays this playoff game vs. Holy Angels as both teams come out of sections. I'm sure there was much anticipation leading up to this game. I am an official, and would have definitely been swifter with the first technical. IT wasn't very smart of him to get so far out and in the officials face. Coach Thorson is VERY well known. That young ref had to have known who he was officiating for prior to the game. I'm willing to bet the officials pre-gamed about Thorson, who can turn off his anger like a light switch (except this time). The official choked on his whistle and should have given Thorson the technical sooner. I'm not justifying coming out on the floor, but an earlier technical may have prevented the opportunity to do so. I'm sure there was plenty of yelling by Thorson in between those videos, and obviously when the second technical came he was ready to walk off.

We do not care about a fan's perspective. The coach is an idiot, just because you as a fan do not think so does not mean others would not have a different opinion. Just saying.

Peace

[smginnis]

It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by smginnis

It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.

You honestly think there were positive outcomes associated with the behavior shown in that video??? Wow...just, wow.

Everyone has seen/heard/been involved with coaches and teams who think they can get everyone "fired up" by getting a T. Have never bought that, and probably never will. Generally when a T is given to a coach for this type of behavior, the whining and complaining from players increases. If this coach can't find a better way to "fire up" his kids than making an a$$ out of himself and shoving kids around, then yes - an idiot he will be.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by smginnis

But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.

I wouldn't call giving up four free throws in a game with the result still in doubt to be smart coaching.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I wouldn't call giving up four free throws in a game with the result still in doubt to be smart coaching.

Reminds me of the Eustachy melt down against Michigan State a few years ago.

[Welpe]

Oh I don't know, being down by 5 and giving up four shots sounds like a great strategy to me.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by Welpe

I wouldn't call giving up four free throws in a game with the result still in doubt to be smart coaching.

OK upon further review, it was only one T at the end of the game but I still don't call that smart.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Welpe

OK upon further review, it was only one T at the end of the game but I still don't call that smart.

Right, two free throws plus a likely possession.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by smginnis

It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.

Honestly I do not know what you are, I did not ask. But based on what you are saying and want us to buy, is that this guy is a good guy but loses control when things do not go his way. If this was not a sporting event would his behavior ever be seen as acceptable? Of course not. If he did this in the classroom he would probably have been fired and the school would have been sued. But for some reason we excuse any behavior during a sporting event even if that sporting event is an extension of the educational process. And I do not care what kind of person he is off the court. All I know is what he saw. I think if he had murdered someone in a 30 second video we would not be talking about what a good person he was now. So why do we act like what he showed us was acceptable in this case? He is supposed to be the leader of young men, not acting like a child that lost his toy.

Peace

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by smginnis

It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.

I'll just tag on to what most have concluded here.............I don't feel he's an idiot, he is an idiot. Nothing you can tell me about this man excuses the behavior he demonstrated on this video. Additionally, you mention that this modus operandi apparently doesn't bother him. That only solidifies his idiot stature.

It's all about him. Pitiful, and you buy into this nonsense.

[fiasco]

Because, yeah, name-calling accomplishes SO much....

[CMHCoachNRef]

YouTube - Academy of Holy Angels VS DeLaSalle

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

YouTube - Academy of Holy Angels VS DeLaSalle

From this slo mo shot it looks like a clean block, I have nothing but a bad acting job by shooter. As always, from a grainy video, bad angle and 50 feet away.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

YouTube - Academy of Holy Angels VS DeLaSalle

Based on the angle and the quality of the video, I do not see anything different from what I saw originally. The officials on the game did not call a foul, as far as I am concerned I see nothing that makes this a foul in slow motion.

Peace