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Old Sun Jan 10, 2010, 06:13pm
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Evidently you don't completely understand. And yes, you are young and still pretty new at this. So, listen to what we're saying.

You have no business making that call.



Let's change sports for a sec.

You're working the plate and a runner from first is tagged on a second base safe. The field umpire signals safe are you going to go out and call the runner out so the crew can enforce the rules of the game?

You're working referee behind the QB, when he throws a long pass into the secondary. You see the receiver is bumped but the back judge doesn't throw a flag for pass interference. Are you as the referee going to throw a flag so the crew can enforce the rules of the game?



The difference is the trail can make a 3 second call in the lane in two man. You should never make a call in the BC from the lead on the endline.
I was nowhere near the end line. Not sure if I said that in the OP. My partner yesterday called maybe three fouls all game, and was otherwise extremely lazy all game. I thought there needed to be a foul called there, so I called it. Next time, I'll take everyone's advice into account, and learn from it. We're always trying to improve aren't we?
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Old Sun Jan 10, 2010, 11:41pm
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You're in a tough spot with a partner like that. A lazy partner who just wants to get the game over ASAP poses quite a challenge.

From my experience, you've got a small number of options. The first is to try and persuade him to do a little thing I like to call "referee". The second is GiGdGo, do your thing and let him do his. If neither of those works, and the game is getting away from the crew, then and only then do you expand your area a little to pick up only what must be called. If the game is unnecessarily rough, start by getting the off-ball stuff. And if you're going to maintain anything that looks like consistency, you need to force regular switches.

Notice I have suggested nothing that endorses reaching 40 feet to grab a plain old foul your partner has passed on.

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Old Mon Jan 11, 2010, 02:16am
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I was nowhere near the end line. Not sure if I said that in the OP. My partner yesterday called maybe three fouls all game, and was otherwise extremely lazy all game. I thought there needed to be a foul called there, so I called it. Next time, I'll take everyone's advice into account, and learn from it. We're always trying to improve aren't we?
Let me try to have you think about it in this manner, who was watching the players in your primary area while you were observing the action and calling a foul in the backcourt?
What if a player picked that time to elbow his opponent in the mouth down on your end? You'd look pretty silly missing it. When you are responsible for a line (OOB call), you have to still focus 80%-90% of your attention on the contact in your PCA and glance at the action near the line out of your area of responsibility. A quick glance is all that you should be having down the sideline into the backcourt in such a situation. That isn't enough to determine whether or not to call a foul, and so that decision must be left up to your partner.
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Old Mon Jan 11, 2010, 08:55am
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Let me try to have you think about it in this manner, who was watching the players in your primary area while you were observing the action and calling a foul in the backcourt?
What if a player picked that time to elbow his opponent in the mouth down on your end? You'd look pretty silly missing it. When you are responsible for a line (OOB call), you have to still focus 80%-90% of your attention on the contact in your PCA and glance at the action near the line out of your area of responsibility. A quick glance is all that you should be having down the sideline into the backcourt in such a situation. That isn't enough to determine whether or not to call a foul, and so that decision must be left up to your partner.
Point well taken. While this situation is unlikely to happen, it certainly could. I did call an intentional foul later in the game. Had the intentional happened before this particular situation, there may have been a player thinking retaliation.
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