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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 04:01pm
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I guess I'm in the minority then because I do think the ball comes to rest in his hand. I would call traveling here.
Explain to me how a ball can come to rest in a hand when the hand is not under the ball....

Call a travel here, be prepared to call a Tech on the coach and be prepared to discuss this with your partners who have to be on the floor with you.

Just because plays look odd/strange/etc does not make them illegal.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 04:09pm
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Explain to me how a ball can come to rest in a hand when the hand is not under the ball....

Call a travel here, be prepared to call a Tech on the coach and be prepared to discuss this with your partners who have to be on the floor with you.

Just because plays look odd/strange/etc does not make them illegal.
Being 6'6" and having a huge hand...uhh, that would be palming the ball (i.e. using the upward force of the ball from the dribble to palm/grab the ball and control it) Get the idea? so, I can take a ball, dribble it and catch it in one hand without putting my hand underneath it... then I can move it laterally/horizontally as I wish... That would be a carry or end of dribble without putting my hand under the ball, as the ball has come to rest in my hand

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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 04:13pm
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I'm not sure what you're saying here. If your hand is large enough that you can grip the ball from above, and you do so, that is illegal. But merely using the upward force of the ball pressing against the hand to control it, not illegal.
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I edited and added clarity... I agree with you to a point. gripping the ball from the top while dribbling would be illegal IF you resumed dribbling. Simply performing that action to stop your dribble is not illegal (but I think you meant that, so we're on the same page)
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 04:25pm
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fundamental of physics. Everything comes to a rest for a very very short time when changing directions 180 degrees. So you are correct to say the ball does stop and come to a rest, but it is for a very short time (hundredths of a second maybe). Not enough to call traveling, palming, etc.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 04:37pm
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fundamental of physics. Everything comes to a rest for a very very short time when changing directions 180 degrees. So you are correct to say the ball does stop and come to a rest, but it is for a very short time (hundredths of a second maybe). Not enough to call traveling, palming, etc.
There's a difference between coming to a momentary inertial rest and actually coming to rest "in the hand." This wording implies the hand must be somehow suspending the ball in the air; either by palming (holding) it or sitting underneath it.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 05:27pm
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At the 1:31 mark of the video, in my opinion, the player causes the ball to come to rest in his hand, which as we all know ends the dribble. He then takes several steps, then dribbles again. That's where I'm getting the traveling call instead of a carry or double dribble.

That's just my judgement, my opinion.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2009, 04:16pm
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Being 6'6" and having a huge hand...uhh, that would be palming the ball (i.e. using the upward force of the ball from the dribble to palm/grab the ball and control it) Get the idea? so, I can take a ball, dribble it and catch it in one hand without putting my hand underneath it... then I can move it laterally/horizontally as I wish... That would be a carry or end of dribble without putting my hand under the ball, as the ball has come to rest in my hand
good point... i was using the video of as an example and that kid is not "palming" the ball but point taken.

My original point still stands though... just cuz it looks odd does not make it illegal... the move in the video is legal and is not a violation.
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