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sseltser Tue Dec 22, 2009 07:44am

Funny Vid / Palming-Carrying?
 
Besides the fantastic sound effects and expert instruction, are you of the opinion that the moves he performs with the 2 chairs is a palming violation?


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bob jenkins Tue Dec 22, 2009 07:55am

didn't watch it, but since there aren't two chairs on the floor at most of my games, I don't think I'll have to worry about it.

mbyron Tue Dec 22, 2009 08:21am

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Originally Posted by sseltser (Post 644745)
Besides the fantastic sound effects and expert instruction, are you of the opinion that the moves he performs with the 2 chairs is a palming violation?

What's the definition of palming?

amusedofficial Tue Dec 22, 2009 08:29am

Perspective
 
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 644746)
didn't watch it, but since there aren't two chairs on the floor at most of my games, I don't think I'll have to worry about it.

At least since Bobby Knight retired.

CMHCoachNRef Tue Dec 22, 2009 08:30am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 644746)
didn't watch it, but since there aren't two chairs on the floor at most of my games, I don't think I'll have to worry about it.

Unless Bobby Knight is coaching....Oh, never mind, you said TWO chairs....:D

chartrusepengui Tue Dec 22, 2009 08:30am

Come on - be fair! That was only 1 chair :D

JRutledge Tue Dec 22, 2009 01:00pm

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Originally Posted by sseltser (Post 644745)
Besides the fantastic sound effects and expert instruction, are you of the opinion that the moves he performs with the 2 chairs is a palming violation?

On a serious note, I do not see a palming violation. The hand is on top and high, but that is not what I would classify as a violation. Oh well. ;)

Peace

sseltser Tue Dec 22, 2009 01:09pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 644825)
On a serious note, I do not see a palming violation. The hand is on top and high, but that is not what I would classify as a violation. Oh well. ;)

Peace

Thanks, that's kind of what I was thinking, but the ball does seem to come to rest, in a strange way, with his hand somewhat at the side of the ball. It just looked so awkward (which doesn't mean it's illegal) that I thought I'd see other opinions.

BBall_Junkie Tue Dec 22, 2009 01:11pm

What Rut said.

bas2456 Tue Dec 22, 2009 03:20pm

Never mind the palming. Wouldn't this be a travel?. He takes several steps after crossing over before dribbling again

BBall_Junkie Tue Dec 22, 2009 03:22pm

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Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 644878)
Never mind the palming. Wouldn't this be a travel?. He takes several steps after crossing over before dribbling again

Fundamental of basketball... you can NOT travel while dribbling.

JRutledge Tue Dec 22, 2009 03:24pm

What BBall_Junkie said. :D

Peace

bas2456 Tue Dec 22, 2009 03:29pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 644881)
What BBall_Junkie said. :D

Peace

True, however you could make the argument that the dribble ended, then he took steps, therefore making it a travel.

No way I'm allowing that play in one of my games. Have to imagine that some sort of unfair advantage would be gained there.

Adam Tue Dec 22, 2009 03:32pm

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Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 644886)
True, however you could make the argument that the dribble ended, then he took steps, therefore making it a travel.

No way I'm allowing that play in one of my games. Have to imagine that some sort of unfair advantage would be gained there.

You'll need to review the rules about what ends a dribble. Hint, the number of steps taken between dribbles isn't part of the equation; otherwise you'd need to call a travel on most fast breaks.

Adam Tue Dec 22, 2009 03:34pm

You need to determine whether the ball came to rest in his hand (that's what ends a dribble). If it did, you can call palming or traveling or illegal dribble. If not (and that's the general opinion here), it's play on. You might want to give the former defender time to find his shoes, though.


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