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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 01:18pm
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As an example, last year I was doing shot clock for Girls' Varsity, whenever a foul was being called the calling official was looking at me & reporting the information at me, instead of to the Scoreboard/Timer & Scorebook.

I had worked with that official several times before when I was JV & C-Squad Scoreboard/Timer, and the official was so used to my method of operations. The person that does the Varsity Scoreboard/Timer has been doing it for at least 10 years, yet I've only done scoreboard/timer for 4-5 years. You'd think the more senior person would have more respect/appreciation from the officials, yet whenever I am at the table I get better responses than others.

With this person that's got the more experience, I've seen several screw ups, yet no one seems to want to change things.
you sound a little jaded... just because the JV coach goes undefeated for 3 straight years doen't mean he/she gets the varsity job. That is just basketball politics... you refs never have to deal with politics I am sure.

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you refs never have to deal with politics I am sure.
That was a joke, right?
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 01:53pm
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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 07:48pm
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Not something I worry about or control. I have had people that claim they are very experienced and those are the people that cause us the most problems.

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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 08:56pm
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I may have experience, but I'm also wanting to learn more. Like I mentioned in earlier postings, I have copies with me of the Instructions to Scorers & Timers with me, in case I do get jammed up somehow. I also am asking the floor officials questions if I do not understand something, or misinterpret.

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Not something I worry about or control. I have had people that claim they are very experienced and those are the people that cause us the most problems.

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Old Mon Dec 07, 2009, 07:43pm
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you sound a little jaded... just because the JV coach goes undefeated for 3 straight years doen't mean he/she gets the varsity job. That is just basketball politics... you refs never have to deal with politics I am sure.

(sorry for the off topic remarks)
Tadams, I've had a few of the floor officials actually mention it to me, that they prefer working with me cause of how I handle things at the table, & my professionalism. The person that does handle the Varsity Scoreboard/Timer has either a written or verbal agreement with the School Board or the School Board decided that since she likes kissing up that she should remain in the position.

I had a preseason meeting with the School AD & mentioned to him that some of the rules/regulations she was going off of were slightly outdated. How I understand things he is going to print out some of the new rules/regulations & go over those with her.

One of the games where I did Girls' Varsity Shot Clock, she tried telling me when to do a clock reset which should not of happened cause of the missed shot (didn't hit the rim), the play should of been a shot clock violation, yet it never got called cause of the reset. At the next time-out I showed her the printed Shot Clock regulations & the R came over as well and verified my information. (The time-out happened right after the play).

I don't mind volunteering doing scoreboard/timer & shot clock, as I see it as doing a service to my alma mater. Depending on what happens with the addition of Boys' 35-second shot clock here in Washington, I might end up doing more Varsity Games as Shot Clock Operator.

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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 09:34am
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Tadams, I've had a few of the floor officials actually mention it to me, that they prefer working with me cause of how I handle things at the table, & my professionalism. The person that does handle the Varsity Scoreboard/Timer has either a written or verbal agreement with the School Board or the School Board decided that since she likes kissing up that she should remain in the position.
Your performance / knowledge is only part of the equation. The other is your attitude and personality. Based on your posts here (and not just in this thread), I'd say you have a long way to go in this area.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 09:43am
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I may have experience, but I'm also wanting to learn more. Like I mentioned in earlier postings, I have copies with me of the Instructions to Scorers & Timers with me, in case I do get jammed up somehow. I also am asking the floor officials questions if I do not understand something, or misinterpret.
That sounds great, but not my ultimate concern. All I want someone that is going to work with us and not try to interfere with you job. What you know might not be an issue. If you have a question, that is fine, but you must listen to us ultimately. Your job is to record, not make decisions.

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Your performance / knowledge is only part of the equation. The other is your attitude and personality. Based on your posts here (and not just in this thread), I'd say you have a long way to go in this area.
I am going to have to agree with Bob on this one.

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