End of game situation

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Now can you honestly tell me you know the difference between .9 seconds and .6, for example?

Yes. I actually can.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

What sort of official count are you using?

Nothing says it has to be an official count. It only says that an official count can be used. If I know, through whatever means, how much time elapsed, I can put it back.

I draw from many, many years of musical training and experience....you get used to subdividing a second into several parts and just knowing how much time has passed.

We don't have to put it all back either. For example, if the whistle sounds then, after a delay, the official looks up to see the clock still running at 1.3 seconds but the clock continues to run out, do you not agree that the official can put 1.3 back on the clock.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Either way, in the case of a clock that does not show tenths, how can you justify putting 1.0 seconds on the clock when there could actually be .5 left? How is that "fair" to the other team, letting the one team have twice the amount of correct time left, just to put "something" back up?

In other words, what rule or case are you using to put "something" back up?

As a counter point, what do you do when the clock shows "1" until the buzzer sounds even though there is less than 1 second left. If the official sees "1", the official can put "1"...even though that is really more than should be. How is that any different?

Basically, we have the precision of the clock to work with. You can be no more precise than the clock allows. At any precision, you're still going to be doing some amount of rounding.

Just because the real time falls between the minimum precision of the clock doesn't mean you shouldn't make a correction.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Yes. I actually can.

I'm not going to disagree with you, in that I don't know you personally and your particular talents. I know as a whole, most people cannot count in tenth-of-a-second intervals, especially while officiating a very close basketball game. So hopefully you understand my skepticism when I tell you I doubt it, and it sounds like a little bit like justification in trying to put "something" back on the clock.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Nothing says it has to be an official count. It only says that an official count can be used. If I know, through whatever means, how much time elapsed, I can put it back.

Through whatever means? Possibly, but guessing and estimating shouldn't be one of those means.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

We don't have to put it all back either. For example, if the whistle sounds then, after a delay, the official looks up to see the clock still running at 1.3 seconds but the clock continues to run out, do you not agree that the official can put 1.3 back on the clock.

Agreed. But with your talent of counting in tenths, wouldn't you know how much extra to put back on?

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

As a counter point, what do you do when the clock shows "1" until the buzzer sounds even though there is less than 1 second left. If the official sees "1", the official can put "1"...even though that is really more than should be. How is that any different?

It isn't. However, realistically, I cannot remember any scoreboard clocks that do not show tenths that operate in this manner. All of the ones I've been in contact with immediately drop to 7:59 when turned on after starting with an 8:00 minute quarter.