player control?

Originally Posted by fullor30

Not near rule book. Player on floor with ball firmly between legs. Player control?

Also reference # on player control. Thanks

Reading everyone's posts regarding this, I think there's a misunderstanding. This OP isn't clear, but I'm going to guess the question is regarding player control for the purpose of calling timeout. But I'll wait for the OP poster to come back and clarify his post.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Reading everyone's posts regarding this, I think there's a misunderstanding. This OP isn't clear, but I'm going to guess the question is regarding player control for the purpose of calling timeout. But I'll wait for the OP poster to come back and clarify his post.

I understood the OP. The player can't call TO because he/she doesn't have PC because he/she has violated.

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I understood the OP. The player can't call TO because he/she doesn't have PC because he/she has violated.

Violated how? It isn't an intentional striking of the leg like some suggest. What if he was on the floor and the ball dropped into the legs? That's why I said the original OP isn't clear.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Violated how? It isn't an intentional striking of the leg like some suggest. What if he was on the floor and the ball dropped into the legs? That's why I said the original OP isn't clear.

I believe - and have been taught - that holding the ball between the legs is a violation. If the ball just dropped onto the legs, that's neither control nor a violation, same as if the ball landed on a player's back.

The only way a player can have player control is to be legally holding the ball or dribbling.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

I understood the OP. The player can't call TO because he/she doesn't have PC because he/she has violated.

Sure he can, the ball is now dead and anyone can request a TO.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Sure he can, the ball is now dead and anyone can request a TO.

Touche.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Reading everyone's posts regarding this, I think there's a misunderstanding. This OP isn't clear, but I'm going to guess the question is regarding player control for the purpose of calling timeout. But I'll wait for the OP poster to come back and clarify his post.

Someone asked me to research it. He only asked me if controlling the ball between your legs(watch it Padgett!) constitutes player control.

[AKOFL]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Someone asked me to research it. He only asked me if controlling the ball between your legs(watch it Padgett!) constitutes player control.

You need to be specific, because we have imagination. We can come up with allot of interesting stuff which will both amuse and confuse.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by AKOFL

You need to be specific, because we have imagination. We can come up with allot of interesting stuff which will both amuse and confuse.

... and bemuse?

[williebfree]

Originally Posted by mbyron

... and bemuse?

Lest we forget to diffuse this ruse?