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[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

There is no rule that defines whether this is holding the ball.

There's also no rule that says this is kicking the ball.

So what your say in is that holding the ball between your legs ( which requires voluntary muscle response) is not an intentional act?

It is a kicking violation. there is a specific play in the NCAA case book that covers this. The rules are the same in FED and NCAA except for the issues with the shot clock.

[BktBallRef]

What I'm saying is that kicking the ball is defined as intentionally striking it. Squeezing the ball between your legs is NOT striking.

OHBBREF, if you think that NCAA and NFHS rules are the same except for the shot clock, you're sadly mistaken.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

The rules are the same in FED and NCAA except for the issues with the shot clock.

Are you talking specifically about the rules for kicking violations? If not, you couldn't be more wrong.