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Old Tue Dec 02, 2008, 03:13pm
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A truly offensive foul.
What's the signal for that?

As Bob alluded to, too many times we let the offense "back down", or push the defense out of their spot. If the defense gives ground, perhaps afraid of the contact, that's one thing, but if the offense pushes/displaces the defense (in the name of "backing down"), that should be a PC foul.

How good was this kid - was the defense scared of the contact, or was he using his size to displace the defense?
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Old Tue Dec 02, 2008, 03:25pm
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As Bob alluded to, too many times we let the offense "back down", or push the defense out of their spot.

And despite what many people think, the defender does not have to fall down for this to be a foul.
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Old Tue Dec 02, 2008, 03:28pm
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Excessive swinging of the elbows could be a violation, independent of a foul. I've never called it, though.
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Old Tue Dec 02, 2008, 08:17pm
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Excessive swinging of the elbows could be a violation, independent of a foul. I've never called it, though.
I only called it few times, when it was only a violation, before it became a technical foul. I never called it when it was a technical foul. I've only called it a few times when it changed back to a violation.
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Old Tue Dec 02, 2008, 09:00pm
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Excessive swinging of the elbows could be a violation, independent of a foul. I've never called it, though.
Could be, but don't use it if there's contact. If there's contact, call the foul.
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Old Tue Dec 02, 2008, 09:07pm
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Don't use it if there's contact. If there's contact, call the foul.
Good point. Player control personal foul, intentional personal foul, or flagrant personal foul, depending on the severity of the contact, and if any intent can be ascertained.

Yeah. That's right. Ascertained. How's that mbyron?
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 08:04am
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Good point. Player control personal foul, intentional personal foul, or flagrant personal foul, depending on the severity of the contact, and if any intent can be ascertained.

Yeah. That's right. Ascertained. How's that mbyron?
That's good. And we can almost always ascertain others' intentions. For example, every time somebody writes something here we discern whether their intention is to post seriously, ironically, or what have you.
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Old Wed Dec 03, 2008, 10:02am
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That's good. And we can almost always ascertain others' intentions. For example, every time somebody writes something here we discern whether their intention is to post seriously, ironically, or what have you.
This gets my vote for post of the day.
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Old Fri Dec 05, 2008, 08:43pm
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This gets my vote for post of the day.
mbyron is on one end of the spectrum. Mark Padgett is on the other end.
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