Post Play

[force39]

A couple of things.

1. When 2 players are jockeying for postion what do you look for to determine a foul or not.

2. What about boxing out for a rebound. I believe on boxing out if a player gets displaced then its a foul. What are your thoughts.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by force39
A couple of things.

1. When 2 players are jockeying for postion what do you look for to determine a foul or not.

The amount of contact, the type of contact and the establishment and maintenance or lack thereof of legal guarding position.

2. What about boxing out for a rebound. I believe on boxing out if a player gets displaced then its a foul. What are your thoughts.

See above.

[Tim Roden]

Originally posted by force39
A couple of things.

1. When 2 players are jockeying for postion what do you look for to determine a foul or not.

I am looking for the intensity of what is going on. Leaning verses pushing. A controling hand. Any grab is automatic. Any Displacement is automatic. Read up on the POE. That will tell you what you need to call. I want to talk to the players if the contact does not create any advantage. If it does create an advantage, I will whistle it immediatly.

2. What about boxing out for a rebound. I believe on boxing out if a player gets displaced then its a foul. What are your thoughts. [/B]

I am usually loking at displacement. Did the player behind push the one in front under the basket? Did the player in front move the one behind to the free throw line? "I was only boxing out, coach."

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by force39
A couple of things.

1. When 2 players are jockeying for postion what do you look for to determine a foul or not.

Referee the defender.

Watch for a knee in the butt or hands or a forearm in the back of the player in front.

Watch for an offensive player who hooks the defender or holds him with both arms extended backwards

Watch for who got position first, if either player being displaced and being placed at a disadvantage.

In the defender is fronting the post player, watch for a push off by the post player if the ball is thrown over the top.

2. What about boxing out for a rebound. I believe on boxing out if a player gets displaced then its a foul. What are your thoughts.

A player can box out but if he starts backing his opponent out, it can be a foul. But if it doesn't have an effect on the play, you can pass on it.

[JRutledge]

1. When 2 players are jockeying for postion what do you look for to determine a foul or not.

Where is the ball?

Who initiated contact?

Is there displacement?

2. What about boxing out for a rebound. I believe on boxing out if a player gets displaced then its a foul. What are your thoughts.

Where is the ball?

Did the contact affect who recieved the ball?

Did the "boxed out" player get displaced?

Peace

[force39]

I am sure I am getting this call right. I had a coach one time really question the call saying he works hard to teach his kids to box out. But what happened was the kid just shoved him out of the way. I told the coach displacement was the call.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by force39
I am sure I am getting this call right. I had a coach one time really question the call saying he works hard to teach his kids to box out. But what happened was the kid just shoved him out of the way. I told the coach displacement was the call.

When "boxing out" means being in the best spot to get the rebound and not giving that spot to anyone else, then boxing out is legal. When "boxing out" means pushing someone out of good rebounding position then boxing out is NOT legal. If coaches would teach more of the former and less of the latter we'd have a lot less explaining to do.