End of game sitch

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

In this situation, simply blow the whistle, stop the clock, recover the ball, and reset the throwin. That will negate the advantage the player was attempting to gain by wasting time.

If done that way, then what is the punishment to the attempted cheater? He is no worse off now than he was before. Perhaps he lost about two seconds which would have come off the clock before he executed an inbounds pass, but his team still has the ball. He basically got a free opportunity to gain an unfair advantage.

I like moving out of the way and letting the player's throw roll away while his five seconds expires. If there is any justice, a five second violation will occur and his team will lose possession.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If done that way, then what is the punishment to the attempted cheater? He is no worse off now than he was before. Perhaps he lost about two seconds which would have come off the clock before he executed an inbounds pass, but his team still has the ball. He basically got a free opportunity to gain an unfair advantage.

I like moving out of the way and letting the player's throw roll away while his five seconds expires. If there is any justice, a five second violation will occur and his team will lose possession.

The advantage they were seeking was to have more time run off the clock by having you delay the start of the 5 count...they were ahead. Stopping the clock kills the advantage they wanted. Now they only get the 1-2 seconds that have already come off the clock instead of the 5 they'd get by either dodging the ball or batting it back to them. They have to make the throwin now and the other team has a fair chance to steal it instead of being shorted a couple of seconds.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

The advantage they were seeking was to have more time run off the clock by having you delay the start of the 5 count...they were ahead. Stopping the clock kills the advantage they wanted. Now they only get 1-2 seconds off the clock instead of 5. They have to make the throwin now and the other team has a fair chance to steal it instead of being shorted a couple of seconds.

Right, you denied them the unfair advantage that they were seeking, but I asked you WHAT PUNISHMENT is there for the attempted cheating? Your answer is that we now have a situation that is fair. Does the team that just tried to cheat deserve a level situation at this point?

I still say that you are letting them off the hook. Handled your way, there is no real downside to the unsporting action.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Right, you denied them the unfair advantage that they were seeking, but I asked you WHAT PUNISHMENT is there for the attempted cheating? Your answer is that we now have a situation that is fair. Does the team that just tried to cheat deserve a level situation at this point?

I still say that you are letting them off the hook. Handled your way, there is no real downside to the unsporting action.

Sure there is....they wanted 5+ seconds off the clock, and legally could get 5. By me blowing the whistle, they get 1-2 only. That's what they lose. Not a big punishment, but one nonetheless.