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Ch1town Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:50am

End of game sitch
 
Team A is down 4 points with less than 15 seconds on the game clock. A2 scores on a 3 point try... Team A is now down by 1. Team B delays in picking up the ball, the official begins his 5 second count. B1 sees the count, picks up the ball & tosses it to the official.
What would you do?

Any casebook play provided would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

slow whistle Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:56am

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 550604)
Team A is down 4 points with less than 15 seconds on the game clock. A2 scores on a 3 point try... Team A is now down by 1. Team B delays in picking up the ball, the official begins his 5 second count. B1 sees the count, picks up the ball & tosses it to the official.
What would you do?

Any casebook play provided would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


I don't have a casebook play, but I would probably use my hand to knock it back to him and continue the count..have done this before although not in the situation you describe at the end of the game...do you think it was intentional that B was delaying by throwing the ball to the official?

jdmara Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:58am

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Originally Posted by slow whistle (Post 550607)
I don't have a casebook play, but I would probably use my hand to knock it back to him and continue the count..have done this before although not in the situation you describe at the end of the game...do you think it was intentional that B was delaying by throwing the ball to the official?

Beat me to it. I take my free hand and knock it down and continue with my count. Done it before and don't see any other way to deal with the situation. I don't try to knock it back though. I just knock it down so I don't accidentally knock it onto the court

-Josh

Ch1town Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:10am

Thanks for the input. Honestly, I would just step back, let the ball go where it goes as I continue my count. But I'm really looking for a casebook play that says exactly what we should do.
It's got to be out there.


Thanks in advance!

Mark Padgett Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:11am

This happens quite often at various points during games. I do my best to just jump out of the way of the ball and let it continue on its path with me continuing the count. After you do this once or twice in a game, it doesn't happen anymore. That's how kids learn. If a coach complains, remind him or her that it's their job to teach their kids the rules.

bob jenkins Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:12am

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 550614)
It's got to be out there.

why would you think that? There's a finite set of rules and cases, but we need to cover an infinite number of possibilities.

Ch1town Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:19am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 550616)
why would you think that?

Wishful thinking good sir.

stripes2255 Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:49am

Quick question that is similar to this one. At any point during the game, if the defensive team that just made the basket grabs the ball out of the basket and tosses it to me, I think that requires a delay of game? Any objections?

bob jenkins Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:51am

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Originally Posted by stripes2255 (Post 550637)
Quick question that is similar to this one. At any point during the game, if the defensive team that just made the basket grabs the ball out of the basket and tosses it to me, I think that requires a delay of game? Any objections?

I object.

Ch1town Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:59am

I second that objection.

CoachP Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:04pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 550638)
I object.

What about 4-47-3?

cdoug Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:10pm

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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 550642)
What about 4-47-3?

I would probably not think it warranted a delay/T if they toss it to me (assuming that I'm the L (new T) and on the end line).

Ch1town Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:13pm

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Originally Posted by CoachP (Post 550642)
What about 4-47-3?

I guess it would be how one interprets "interfere".

Team A scores, as the ball goes though the basket it appears as though it will bounce on the court. But A1 passes it to the official before the bounce. Is that really interfering?

Same sitch but A1 taps the ball away from Team B & not towards an official. I think thats the intent of "interfere".

JMO

bob jenkins Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:36pm

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Originally Posted by cdoug (Post 550644)
I would probably not think it warranted a delay/T if they toss it to me (assuming that I'm the L (new T) and on the end line).

Right. Especially if the ball comes right through the net to the (former) offensive player, and ther are no defensive players quite ready to get the ball for a throw-in.

The play happens to me a couple of times a season and not once have I thought about a delay warning (in this type of play).

Adam Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:46pm

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Originally Posted by Ch1town (Post 550604)
Team A is down 4 points with less than 15 seconds on the game clock. A2 scores on a 3 point try... Team A is now down by 1. Team B delays in picking up the ball, the official begins his 5 second count. B1 sees the count, picks up the ball & tosses it to the official.
What would you do?

Any casebook play provided would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I see three options here.

1. Your option is a good one; letting it roll and continuing the count.

2. Bat it back to him and continue the count. Don't start it over.

3. Stop the clock and re-administer. This defeats B1's purpose and allows A to set up their defense.

Personally, I like all three but prefer #1.


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