Double dribble?

[Back In The Saddle]

So an interrupted dribble, which occurs after the player's original dribble has been used is not an illegal dribble?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

So an interrupted dribble, which occurs after the player's original dribble has been used is not an illegal dribble?

I see your point, BITS. However, if you are going to consider the "pass" to be a dribble, then you should sound the whistle and call a violation as soon as A1 begins the second dribble.

This is a strange play, but my opinion is still that it isn't a violation because it doesn't meet the intent and purpose of the rule. A1 was not trying to dribble a second time, nor was A1 trying to touch the ball after throwing it in the direction of A2.

Just my thoughts.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I see your point, BITS. However, if you are going to consider the "pass" to be a dribble, then you should sound the whistle and call a violation as soon as A1 begins the second dribble.

This is a strange play, but my opinion is still that it isn't a violation because it doesn't meet the intent and purpose of the rule. A1 was not trying to dribble a second time, nor was A1 trying to touch the ball after throwing it in the direction of A2.

Just my thoughts.

You're right, this was a strange play. Just trying to understand it a little better. Nobody said a word about the call at the time; but that does not mean I got it right.

Just for my edification: If the situation were a little different, if she had passed the ball and then gone and actually picked it up, now we have an illegal dribble, correct?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Just for my edification: If the situation were a little different, if she had passed the ball and then gone and actually picked it up, now we have an illegal dribble, correct?

Or travelling?

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Or travelling?

How so? She was not holding the ball, which is fundamental to traveling.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

How so? She was not holding the ball, which is fundamental to traveling.

My bad, I was thinking about a player leaving his/her feet then passing the ball and retrieving it.

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

My bad, I was thinking about a player leaving his/her feet then passing the ball and retrieving it.

Please forgive me for splitting hairs here, but that is still not a travel.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

You're right, this was a strange play. Just trying to understand it a little better. Nobody said a word about the call at the time; but that does not mean I got it right.

Just for my edification: If the situation were a little different, if she had passed the ball and then gone and actually picked it up, now we have an illegal dribble, correct?

Yes, that would clearly be a second dribble.

PS It's definitely not traveling, but sadly there are many officials who would call such.

[OHBBREF]

okay there is no player control during an interupted dribble, and a player may directly resume dribbling of the ball upon recovery as long as it is part of the same dribble. (didn't pick up the ball - didn't trap it on the floor, and pick it up etc.).
however my question is this; wouldn't the dribble end when the ball was touched by another player, offense or defense?

If a dribble is batted by a defender then recovered by the dribbler, they can gather the ball and dribble again. If the dribbler accidently dribbles the ball off of a teammate they can gather the ball and dribble again.

I do not see any difference becase there is loss of player control durring an iterupted dribble and the ball was touched by another player IMO ending the dribble.
I got nothing here.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

okay there is no player control during an interupted dribble, and a player may directly resume dribbling of the ball upon recovery as long as it is part of the same dribble. (didn't pick up the ball - didn't trap it on the floor, and pick it up etc.).
however my question is this; wouldn't the dribble end when the ball was touched by another player, offense or defense?

If a dribble is batted by a defender then recovered by the dribbler, they can gather the ball and dribble again. If the dribbler accidently dribbles the ball off of a teammate they can gather the ball and dribble again.

I do not see any difference becase there is loss of player control durring an iterupted dribble and the ball was touched by another player IMO ending the dribble.
I got nothing here.

Re-read the original post. The ball didn't touch another player, it touched A1 again.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Re-read the original post. The ball didn't touch another player, it touched A1 again.

OOPS - In that case -
try this,
since there is no player control during an interuppted dribble the touch by A1 did not re-establish control so it would be irrelivant to what happens next.