Why was my Stanford/UCLA post taken down?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Plethora. Veritable plethora.

Its. A. Plethora.

Liked that one, eh? Did it give you a pilomotor reaction(probably singular in your case)?

[SonikBoom]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Can someone honestly say that at a game with a home crowd going crazy that the refs might make a call they would normally not make when the game was less intense?

Yes, lots of people can. If you can't, that's your problem.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Now on to why the star players get the calls? Jordan, Kobe etc.

Stick to basketball....we're not discussing the NBA.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

Plethora. Of the veritable variety.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Liked that one, eh? Did it give you a pilomotor reaction(probably singular in your case)?

Well... I don't know about all them high faluttin' $10 words yer throwing around my friend, but I do know it gave me goose bumps.

[Adam]

And I just would like to know if you know what a plethora is, Jefe.

[lpbreeze]

Can someone honestly say that at a game with a home crowd going crazy that the refs might make a call they would normally not make when the game was less intense?


And I'm sure many refs here can answer they have stayed objective and consistent(Edit) although it seems to be a touchy subject so I'm sure many of you have had really close games and questioned your judgment on a call late in a game. But it does happen and even the best refs might make mistakes in these situations.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

Plethora. Of the veritable variety.

[Dan_ref]

Geeze JR, you're really working hard....errr... strike that... you really want to get this puppy shut down dontchya?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

[I]And I'm sure many refs here can answer they have stayed objective and consistent(Edit) although it seems to be a touchy subject so I'm sure many of you have had really close games and questioned your judgment on a call late in a game. But it does happen and even the best refs might make mistakes in these situations.

I don't know about consistent (tough to define, and always defined differently by coaches, players, and fans than by officials), but I can claim I've always been objective. Have I made mistakes? Yes. Do I blame the intensity of the game? No.

If you're getting overwhelmed by the intensity of momentum, then you're reffing above your paygrade.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

As for mistakes I've made them and everyone does at any level.

Then as a new official shouldn't you be citing plays that involved you instead of plays the top level of NCAA b-ball?

Shouldn't you ask advice or opinions about the calls you made that caused a team to lose? You need to learn from your own mistakes first. Not those of officials who are ref'n an entirely different brand of basketball than you do.

[lpbreeze]

yah that consistency word can be tough to define for refs because there are different types of plays. I've done very well late in the games. One of my first games I thought my partner and I didn't do a good job. Since then I wanted to do better and my close games have gone very well. Mistakes happen but it should be about the refs and the play on court. But other factors can contribute to bad calls and I say this can affect any level of referee. That is not to say every referee will be swayed but again I'm claiming that it does occur.

[jdw3018]

Perhaps I can help, Breeze. Here's a way you could have posted your questions that may have been received better:

"I was watching the Stanford/UCLA game last night, and replay showed there were a couple of calls that were questionable that went against Stanford. Obviously the officials have different angles and it's impossible to know exactly what they called at times. These are certainly excellent officials and I'm sure they felt very confident in their calls, and I don't know enough to critique their performance.

That said, it got me thinking about whether officials, as humans, can totally block out the emotion of the game. I've experienced times in my lower-level games where I, or where I've sensed my partners, have struggled to maintain consistency. I wonder if it's due to the emotion of a team going on a run, and/or the crowd.

What do you all do to keep emotions in check throughout the game and not get caught up in the excitement and exhilaration of the game? Do you think, even at high levels, that officials can be impacted by the emotion of the game?"

This question probably wouldn't be well-received by all - it's probably better asked without talking about the specific game at all, but it would have at least given the opportunity for real discussion. Instead you chose to accuse D-I officials of throwing a game because they got caught up in the emotion of the stronger team's run.

I hope this helps for all future posting. We stick together here, and have each others' backs when it comes to integrity and purpose.

Good luck to you.

[canuckrefguy]

Your thread got yanked because it

a) was dumb.
b) incited some inflammatory, counter-productive material.
c) was dumb.

End of story.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by lpbreeze

yah that consistency word can be tough to define for refs because there are different types of plays. I've done very well late in the games. One of my first games I thought my partner and I didn't do a good job. Since then I wanted to do better and my close games have gone very well. Mistakes happen but it should be about the refs and the play on court. But other factors can contribute to bad calls and I say this can affect any level of referee. That is not to say every referee will be swayed but again I'm claiming that it does occur.

Wow. "Consistency" is a tough word to define for REFS????? But you in your first year or two, are doing just great with it? I agree with those who recommend you start a camp. We all have a lot to learn from you.

This is all just too funny for words.