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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:54pm
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yah it would have been better to do it that way. JR still would have acted like the douche of the universe that he is but perhaps fewer would have joined in. I did say Stanford may have lost even if the calls didn't go their way and that the game was officiated well overall.


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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 04:56pm
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Rain, I was replying to these comments by Snaqwells.
"I don't know about consistent (tough to define, and always defined differently by coaches, players, and fans than by officials), but I can claim I've always been objective. Have I made mistakes? Yes. Do I blame the intensity of the game? No.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 05:01pm
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Rain, I was replying to these comments by Snaqwells.
"I don't know about consistent (tough to define, and always defined differently by coaches, players, and fans than by officials), but I can claim I've always been objective. Have I made mistakes? Yes. Do I blame the intensity of the game? No.
I didn't say it was hard to define. I said you'll have a hard time getting coaches, players, and fans to agree with officials on how to define it. My point is simple. The fact that mistakes are made does not mean they were made because of the emotions of the game.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 05:04pm
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Rain, I was replying to these comments by Snaqwells.
"I don't know about consistent (tough to define, and always defined differently by coaches, players, and fans than by officials), but I can claim I've always been objective. Have I made mistakes? Yes. Do I blame the intensity of the game? No.
You don't blame them on the intensity when you commit them, but you do when the D1 refs commit them (if they really did, which is also apparently only by your judgment?) Interesting.

These top level refs who have more experience, training, skill, emotional control and respect of their assignors, than almost anyone on this board -- they are "making mistakes" that you aren't?? Wow. Just wow.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 05:06pm
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You don't blame them on the intensity when you commit them, but you do when the D1 refs commit them (if they really did, which is also apparently only by your judgment?) Interesting.

These top level refs who have more experience, training, skill, emotional control and respect of their assignors, than almost anyone on this board -- they are "making mistakes" that you aren't?? Wow. Just wow.
The denial is mine.

Our friend here is projecting his own shortcomings onto the D1 refs he observed.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 05:18pm
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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...stanford.ucla/

""That was block," said Collison. "That was a complete block. We were fortunate to get a foul called. I heard it was a make-up [call]."

There were calls before that too. If it were just this play I wouldn't be complaining. I defended the ref in that Georgetown-Nova game when GT went to the line at the end of the game. My theory is the refs got caught up with the team on a roll. Are those great refs? Sure. Could I be wrong? Yes again. But it happens and it may have happened in the game.
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Can someone honestly say that at a game with a home crowd going crazy that the refs might make a call they would normally not make when the game was less intense?

Yes, I will say it, and honestly. If you think that happens, then it's obvious not only do you know nothing about officiating, but you'd better get out of it quick because your posts imply you have no intent to demonstrate integrity when it comes to officiating. You are looking for a rationalization for you making incorrect calls.
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 05:37pm
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""That was block," said Collison. "That was a complete block. We were fortunate to get a foul called. I heard it was a make-up [call]."

There were calls before that too. If it were just this play I wouldn't be complaining. I defended the ref in that Georgetown-Nova game when GT went to the line at the end of the game. My theory is the refs got caught up with the team on a roll. Are those great refs? Sure. Could I be wrong? Yes again. But it happens and it may have happened in the game.

Breeze.............now you're quoting a 20 year old player and siding with his view? He heard it was a makeup call? Innuendo, heresay, rumor, he said she said. C'mon!

I made the stoopid mistake when I first started posting here regarding O.J. Mayo's tripping an official that it looked like the official flopped( which of course he didn't). I was rightly taken to task and put in my place and told to get lost. I deserved every bit of it. This is not the place to rip officials judgement and question their integrity. With all due respect, do what I did...........STFU.

Go tell a friend your story, not the reffing community.


By the way, I went to the youtube video and I thought it was the right call, a courageous call.

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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 06:07pm
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And so it is written, so shall it be!
Um...so where do you put the crown?
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Old Fri Mar 07, 2008, 06:18pm
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This is not the place to rip officials judgment and question their integrity.
Actually, I think that anyone really cares if anyone else questions an official's judgment on an individual call. Or even if they say that the officials didn't have a very good game. Or that they stunk the joint out. We all make those mistakes and we've all been there. However, when you start questioning an official's integrity and intimate that officials are homers or that they will deliberately favor one team over another, etc., then you've crossed the line and landed in Fanboyland.

I'm kinda amazed that it hasn't sunk into this particular fanboy's thick head yet that there is unanimous disdain for his position. That's kinda amazing in itself because we(officials on this forum) never usually come close to agreeing unanimously on anything.

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Um...so where do you put the crown?
I hoist it on my petard.

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Or on my carrot......
I always pictured the crown to be bigger than that.



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