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[just another ref]

Originally Posted by TD21

You are just adding your own spin on what I'm saying. I never said anything about calling fouls that didn't happen, or not calling fouls that did happen. I'll play your game for a minute. Do you know when you make a bad call? Do you know when you can pass on a play that could have gone either way? Do you understand simple concepts such as a square peg doesn't fit in a round hole?

Nobody said anything about calling fouls that didn't happen. That, at least is a good thing agreed upon by all. But when you refer to "making sure that it is a good foul," this is when the trouble starts. If you say that the second or third foul "must be a good foul" because it will put a guy on the bench, this insinuates that it was not necessary for the first one to be a "good foul." As for being aware of a bad call when you make it, sure, sometimes you have one that looks bad in retrospect. Could that affect my next call in the same borderline situation? Possibly, but not because of the fact that it is on a star player. Does a square peg fit in a round hole? No, but if the hole is big enough, you can hide a bunch of squares and other inconsistent shapes in it and try to convince people that they fit.

[TD21]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Nobody said anything about calling fouls that didn't happen. That, at least is a good thing agreed upon by all. But when you refer to "making sure that it is a good foul," this is when the trouble starts. If you say that the second or third foul "must be a good foul" because it will put a guy on the bench, this insinuates that it was not necessary for the first one to be a "good foul." As for being aware of a bad call when you make it, sure, sometimes you have one that looks bad in retrospect. Could that affect my next call in the same borderline situation? Possibly, but not because of the fact that it is on a star player. Does a square peg fit in a round hole? No, but if the hole is big enough, you can hide a bunch of squares and other inconsistent shapes in it and try to convince people that they fit.

I think you are starting to get it a little.........We've got you to admit that sometimes you make a bad call. good. what scares me is instead of finding the peg that fits in the hole you'd rather put something in there that doesn't and convince people it does. So I guess you can make a call that doesn't fit and convince a coach that that is in fact what happened. But since your calls aren't wrong, they just sometimes "might" look bad, I guess you are good at convincing people that what you have done is correct, it just looks really bad. Guess you are good at hiding the "inconsistencies" in your game.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by TD21

what scares me is instead of finding the peg that fits in the hole you'd rather put something in there that doesn't and convince people it does.

This was a reference to your philosophy, not mine.

[TD21]

Originally Posted by just another ref

This was a reference to your philosophy, not mine.

You said it not me. You can't say something and then tell someone that it is their philosophy. Its like blowing your whistle and telling the coach that your partner called it not you.