Tim Duncan - double T

[jmkbball]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You were OK up until the slur. You can question his judgment. If you question his integrity, you're over the line. It is neither appreciated or tolerated on an officials' web site.

Iow, piss off, fanboy, and don't come back.

Don't take that personally though.....

Just curious….
I can’t fault anyone for trying to make an extra buck but when that person does something they know is wrong; they then hide it until someone else (in this case another NBA ref) exposes a consciousness effort by them and others to evade paying taxes; they agree to a felony, pay a fine, and serve (albeit under house arrest) a sentence for the offense…

-is integrity a word that easily rolls off your tongue in defense of that person?


It seems that using the ‘f’ word (fanboy) the best argument some can offer to rebut questions and postings on this site?

I realize the sanctity of ‘an officials website’ is held either just above or below God and Country (based on the emotions used and number of postings), but a couple of really smart people from completely different sides of the spectrum said two things that really have a lot in common.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Rudeness and personal attacks are the weak person’s imitation of strength.

My background and love of basketball keep me officiating… my business allows me to have season tickets in back of the Spurs bench and occassionally allows me to travel to another city to watch a game. I was at the game in question and could not tell what was said. I think for the most part, only two people really know the facts of the incident.

But it was just an NBA basketball game – and at times it seems that the NBA and basketball are an oxymoron that serve different purposes.

[NewNCref]

Originally Posted by jmkbball

It seems that using the ‘f’ word (fanboy) the best argument some can offer to rebut questions and postings on this site?

JMK,

It's not that it's the best argument there is, it's that what the poster is looking for is not a well-reasoned, rational response, they just want to vent about their team getting crapped on. Now, I did not see the incident in question, but here's how I might suggest that people keep from getting labeled as fanboys in the future.

In this situation, poster said:

Originally Posted by dave30

Joey is a hothead. That was ridiculous. It was actually a pretty good game until the best player on the team got kicked out. It wasn't worth watching after that. He should ignore the laughing. Tim Duncan wasn't even on the floor at the time. Apparently Joey Crawford challenged Tim Duncan to a fight. If I was Duncan's size and Crawford challenged me to a fight, I would be laughing too! Hasn't Crawford had to go to anger management before? He does have quite a temper.

I might suggest something more as follows:

Yeah, I couldn't really see what happened other than Duncan laughing, does anyone else know what might have happened? Or was Crawford just a little quick with the T?

Asking questions about a situation will get you a lot further than simply crapping on the official. It's the immediately crapping on an official that gets you the fanboy label. If you come here with a legitimate question, you'll most likely get some answers, but if you come out of the gate crapping on the official, even if there might be a legitimate question hidden underneath it all, you're like to get ignored.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jmkbball

Just curious….
1) is integrity a word that easily rolls off your tongue in defense of that person?

2)It seems that using the ‘f’ word (fanboy) the best argument some can offer to rebut questions and postings on this site?

3) my business allows me to have season tickets in back of the Spurs bench and occassionally allows me to travel to another city to watch a game.

Yes, when it comes intimating that an official is deliberately favoring one team over another, and also when it comes to slurring an official without knowing all the facts.

2) The word "fanboy" seems to comfortably fit all the whining, crybaby, moronic mopes that come here not to ask about a rule or a call but only to dump on an official.

3) Gee, why aren't I surprised, fanboy?

[Texas Aggie]

As a Mavs fan and one that has been highly critical of NBA officials, let me say this: in handing out Ts, I think they do a halfway decent job. In years past, they have (in my view) clearly let things go from the star players in the league and busted the "little guys." Now, they are engaging in equal opportunity whacking. Dirk got one earlier in the season (2-3 weeks ago) and I'm sure he deserved it.

I've got serious complaints with the way the NBA is officiated, but I also think that if JC threw someone out, they deserved to get thrown out. He's not going to throw a star out of the game and risk getting yelled at by the league unless the star deserved it. He's not dumb. On the other hand, apparantly, Duncan is!

[jkjenning]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The word "fanboy" seems to comfortably fit all the whining, crybaby, moronic mopes that come here not to ask about a rule or a call but only to dump on an official.

Do you not have any teams that you yourself are a fan of? Enjoying the game as a fan is part of loving the game and when you are an official who is watching the game you are going to have an opinion on their performance. You are applying your moronic comments to another official.

Originally Posted by jmkbball

Rudeness and personal attacks are the weak person’s imitation of strength.

Yep.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jkjenning

Do you not have any teams that you yourself are a fan of? Enjoying the game as a fan is part of loving the game and when you are an official who is watching the game you are going to have an opinion on their performance. You are applying your moronic comments to another official.

Yes, jk, I'm a big fan of some teams. That doesn't mean that I'm gonna crap on the officials in that sport. I realize that there isn't an official in the world that hasn't, and also won't make a bad call sometime. There's nothing the matter with critiquing an official's call, but when you also question that official's integrity or sense of fairness, then you're way out of line. You can tell me that an official missed a call, but if you tell me that the official missed that call on purpose, then you very simply deserve everything that you get.

Idiotic fanboys don't understand the difference and never will.

There are also officials that I'd go to war with after reading their thoughts on this site. Believe me, you are sureashell not one of 'em. Your comments don't surprise me one bit either. If anything, I expected that you wouldn't get it also. Congratulations! You didn't disappoint me.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jmkbball

-is integrity a word that easily rolls off your tongue in defense of that person?

Without regard to this particular official's tax history, the post that brought JR's response was this:

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

From the looks of every one's faces, they were shocked by what he said and did. The foul that Duncan received the technical for earlier was a terrible call even by NBA standards. I think he was just trying to get on Mark Cuban's good side.

Now, that part it red is a direct attack on the official's on-court integrity, and is a direct accusation of cheating.
I'm not going to defend any officials off-court integrity unless I know him or her personally. However, without evidence to the contrary, most of us aren't going to sit back and watch officials' on-court integrity get challenged.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by jmkbball

Just curious….

-is integrity a word that easily rolls off your tongue in defense of that person?

It seems that using the ‘f’ word (fanboy) the best argument some can offer to rebut questions and postings on this site?

Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Rudeness and personal attacks are the weak person’s imitation of strength.

my business allows me to have season tickets in back of the Spurs bench and occassionally allows me to travel to another city to watch a game.

So...attacking Crawford's integrity is not a personal attack? Saying that someone who refers to others as fanboys is sincerely ignorant is not a personal attack? Do you have a weak mind? After all, that's what you said rudeness shows...

Conscientious stupidity??? Is that when someone admits they are a fan of a certain team and then gripes about the officials doing "their" team's games?? Isn't conscientious stupidity the same thing as being a fanboy??

Katie bar the doors - it's NBA play-off time again...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Katie bar the doors - it's NBA play-off time again...

Stoopid monkeys.....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

I suppose sarcasm escapes you. You threw out the word integrity. Glad to see you are so politically correct as you throw out accusations. You have made more out of than it needs to be.

You said he may have made the call to get on Cuban's good side. A simple "I was joking," would have sufficed. The "sarcasm" appeared to escape a lot of folks.

Sarcasm usually works best among those who are familiar with you. Otherwise, a few hints of your intent might be helpful.

[blindmanwalking]

I'll never understand how anyone can get upset over anything in the NBA. IMO, it is entertainment first, a contest 2nd. The officials are probably the best in the world at calling games using NBA RULES AND MECHANICS. I gave up watching because, overall, I don't like the product.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by blindmanwalking

I'll never understand how anyone can get upset over anything in the NBA. IMO, it is entertainment first, a contest 2nd. The officials are probably the best in the world at calling games using NBA RULES AND MECHANICS. I gave up watching because, overall, I don't like the product.

Neither do very many other people...heard one of those radio guys on ESPN (Cowherd I think) saying that the NBA tv market shares are way down again this year...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Steven Tyler

That we only see and read what we want to. Did the girls go into the press conference dressed like they did when they played Tennessee?

This is a BFO (Blinding Flash of the Obvious) and a gratuitous non sequiter.

Michael Jordan didn't go to press conferences dressed for a game. I've never seen a Steve Nash press conference, but I'll bet he looks significantly less greasy when he gets there. What these women look like is irrelevant to Imus' comments, and showing up to a press conference looking "pretty" wasn't as deceptive as you imply.

Also, I really don't see how it even comes close to being relevant to a discussion of Tim Duncan and NBA refs.

[26 Year Gap]

Steven, your deflection was wide of the net.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

F@ck you, f@ck your bandwagon, f@ck Al Sharpton, f@ck Don Imus.

You left out "stoopid f@cking monkeys".