Playoff Tech.

[K-Bach]

Originally Posted by Old School

Contact after the whistle has been blown should be ignored unless it is intentional or flagrant.

Does this mean you only call intentional or flagrant technical fouls? This must be some new form of game management -- call no dead ball contact until the game is beyond control.

I'll think I'll try it!

[MJT]

tmp44, I think when you see the situation occur you know if it warrants a T or not and that judgement is usually correct. I have only had one T on a player in the past 4 years and it was a flailing elbow/armswing just after I called a foul against a player who just contacted the player I T'd up. Like I said, when I saw it, I knew it was a T. It would have been if it was in a 7th grade game or a state championship game.

[Adam]

I had two dead ball contact T's this season in my games. My partner called one in a varsity girls game after a held ball when one of the participants threw an elbow before getting off the floor.
My other one was a 7th grade girls game, girl got fouled pretty hard. We had the whistle immediately, but I as soon as I'd closed in about two steps the fouled girl retaliated with a solid shove. Easy T. Her coach didn't seem to agree, but managed to keep it to himself mostly.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by K-Bach

This must be some new form of game management -- call no dead ball contact until the game is beyond control.

I'll think I'll try it!

You should try it, because it's the rule. See 4-19-1 Note.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by K-Bach

Does this mean you only call intentional or flagrant technical fouls? This must be some new form of game management -- call no dead ball contact until the game is beyond control.

I'll think I'll try it!

If the contact is intentional or flagrant during a dead ball, it's a technical foul. Please tell me what other types fo dead ball contact there are and how you'd punish them.

And then see Bob's reference again.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by K-Bach

Does this mean you only call intentional or flagrant technical fouls? This must be some new form of game management -- call no dead ball contact until the game is beyond control.

I'll think I'll try it!

If the ball is dead, you can't call a personal foul. It has to be a technical foul if anything. The rule (see Bob's post above for the reference) says it must be intentional or flagrant to call it.
Now, a purposeful shove or elbow definitely falls into the "intentional" category and allows you to call the technical foul here.

[K-Bach]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

If the ball is dead, you can't call a personal foul. It has to be a technical foul if anything. The rule (see Bob's post above for the reference) says it must be intentional or flagrant to call it.
Now, a purposeful shove or elbow definitely falls into the "intentional" category and allows you to call the technical foul here.

I wish to refer you to the context of my original comment -- a sarcastic response to OS. Of course, dead ball fouls must be technical; however, the genius that is OS, master of the NBA, D-1, all levels/genders of HS, does not call a T unless it is flagrant or intentional. Clearly, his mastery of game management exceeds my ability to bow before it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by K-Bach

Clearly, his mastery of game management exceeds my ability to bow before it.

[MJT]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Jurassic Referee, where did you find that "smile?"

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by MJT

Jurassic Referee, where did you find that "smile?"

Push the "quote" button on my post and you'll see the web site.

Try 1000smilies.com too