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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 04:59pm
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Saturday, after my team had been fouled (non-shooting) and the ball was put back in play, the table informed the stripes that we'd just been fouled for the 8th time and I hadn't shot 1-1 for foul 7 or 8. Is this a "correctable error"? Just what type of a thing is? Any general rule?
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Saturday, after my team had been fouled (non-shooting) and the ball was put back in play, the table informed the stripes that we'd just been fouled for the 8th time and I hadn't shot 1-1 for foul 7 or 8. Is this a "correctable error"? Just what type of a thing is? Any general rule?

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Saturday, after my team had been fouled (non-shooting) and the ball was put back in play, the table informed the stripes that we'd just been fouled for the 8th time and I hadn't shot 1-1 for foul 7 or 8. Is this a "correctable error"? Just what type of a thing is? Any general rule?
General clue? We don't ref on general clues. We use the rule book. Check item 2-10, and its associated case plays in the case book.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2007, 06:03pm
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Saturday, after my team had been fouled (non-shooting) and the ball was put back in play, the table informed the stripes that we'd just been fouled for the 8th time and I hadn't shot 1-1 for foul 7 or 8. Is this a "correctable error"? Just what type of a thing is? Any general rule?
You should probably get your shots for the 8th foul at this point, but not for the 7th. Of course, it all depends on whether the prescribed events had taken place or not.
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Saturday, after my team had been fouled (non-shooting) and the ball was put back in play, the table informed the stripes that we'd just been fouled for the 8th time and I hadn't shot 1-1 for foul 7 or 8. Is this a "correctable error"? Just what type of a thing is? Any general rule?
Not awarding merited FTs is a correctable error. However, there is a specified time limit in which this error may be corrected. After that passes it is too late. It is likely that it is too late to give your team the bonus FTs for the 7th team foul, but it is probably still within the time frame to award the FTs for the 8th foul.

Here's the rule:
RULE 2
SECTION 10 CORRECTABLE ERRORS
ART. 1 . . . Officials may correct an error if a rule is inadvertently set aside and results in:
a. Failure to award a merited free throw.
b. Awarding an unmerited free throw.
c. Permitting a wrong player to attempt a free throw.
d. Attempting a free throw at the wrong basket.
e. Erroneously counting or canceling a score.
ART. 2 . . . In order to correct any of the officials' errors listed in Article 1, such error must be recognized by an official no later than during the first dead ball after the clock has properly started.
ART. 3 . . . If in Article 1e the error is made while the clock is running and the ball dead, it must be recognized by an official before the second live ball.
ART. 4 . . . If the error is a free throw by the wrong player or at the wrong
basket, or the awarding of an unmerited free throw, the free throw and the activity during it, other than unsporting, flagrant, intentional or technical fouls, shall be canceled.
ART. 5 . . . Points scored, consumed time and additional activity, which may occur prior to the recognition of an error, shall not be nullified. Errors because of free-throw attempts by the wrong player or at the wrong basket shall be corrected by applying 8-1 and 2.
ART. 6 . . . If an error is corrected, play shall be resumed from the point of interruption to rectify the error, unless it involves awarding a merited free throw(s) and there has been no change of team possession since the error was made, in which case play shall resume as after any free-throw attempt(s).
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Saturday, after my team had been fouled (non-shooting) and the ball was put back in play, the table informed the stripes that we'd just been fouled for the 8th time and I hadn't shot 1-1 for foul 7 or 8. Is this a "correctable error"? Just what type of a thing is? Any general rule?
The second mistake can be corrected, not the first one. Correctable Errors need to be discussed more and more and more! When it was discovered the second time, how was it handled?
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Old Tue Jan 23, 2007, 01:24pm
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I believe that the 8th foul error is within the prescribed frame for correction. Unless the foul was a player control or team control foul or there was already 2 shots awarded for the foul. i.e. a shooting foul.

I had a Coach telling me his guy should have gotten FT on the last couple of fouls because he just noticed they had 9 on the scoreclock. I asked him if he remembered what the fouls that were called were. As he began to describe the fouls he realized that foul 7 was a 2 shot foul already and 8 was PC.
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I thought this was pretty simple (maybe I am wrong). If the error was found at the next dead ball than this is correctable. In other words if the 7th foul didn't get a one-and-one and the next foul occured. Then - A one and one is shot with the teams cleared from the line with the person who was fouled on the 7th. Then the teams take their spot and the 1-1 is administered for the 8th.

If a dead ball had occured before the 8th foul, to bad. Only the 2nd 1-1 is administered.
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Old Tue Jan 23, 2007, 05:47pm
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I thought this was pretty simple (maybe I am wrong). If the error was found at the next dead ball than this is correctable. In other words if the 7th foul didn't get a one-and-one and the next foul occured. Then - A one and one is shot with the teams cleared from the line with the person who was fouled on the 7th. Then the teams take their spot and the 1-1 is administered for the 8th.

If a dead ball had occured before the 8th foul, to bad. Only the 2nd 1-1 is administered.
You are correct. But, the OP said, "after my team had been fouled (non-shooting) and the ball was put back in play" so it clearly was too late to correct the error of not shooting on the 7th foul.
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