Lets Talk Displacement

[blindzebra]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

This seems to violate basic screening principles.

Sumo match is not a word I would use, but let's go with it. If A1 & B1 engage in a sumo match waiting for the rebound then unless there's discplacement there's no foul I take it.

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I'm not taking the bait.

You know it is not violating screening principles the way I described it, and playing up an obvious exaggeration to spin away from being busted on the other post, is not gonna cut it.

Bored or something?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by blindzebra

I'm not taking the bait.

You know it is not violating screening principles the way I described it, and playing up an obvious exaggeration to spin away from being busted on the other post, is not gonna cut it.

Bored or something? [/B][/QUOTE]

Being busted?

Honey, of all the things I worry about in this lifetime "being busted" on this forum is not even on the list.

So let's get back to the issue: you said "Blocking out is holding your position and not creating a new one by displacing another player."

Does this mean that A1 & B1 can legally engage in a sumo match (your words again) as long as there is no displacement?

Assuming screening principles are not violated of course.

And btw, I am very serious.

[devdog69]

What you permit, you promote...

Originally posted by David B

That's been taught for years and as Mick stated, I call it less all the time.

As long as it doesn't affect the shot I'm just treating it as incidental contact.

Thansk
David

[blindzebra]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

I'm not taking the bait.

You know it is not violating screening principles the way I described it, and playing up an obvious exaggeration to spin away from being busted on the other post, is not gonna cut it.

Bored or something?

Being busted?

Honey, of all the things I worry about in this lifetime "being busted" on this forum is not even on the list.

So let's get back to the issue: you said "Blocking out is holding your position and not creating a new one by displacing another player."

Does this mean that A1 & B1 can legally engage in a sumo match (your words again) as long as there is no displacement?

Assuming screening principles are not violated of course.

And btw, I am very serious. [/B][/QUOTE]

You misrepresented what I said to having two players pushing against each other.

If I have a sumo match, I've got a double foul.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by blindzebra


You misrepresented what I said to having two players pushing against each other.

If I have a sumo match, I've got a double foul.

What about displacement then?

I thought you said boxing out is all about holding your position and not displacing an opponent?

There's no other way to hold your position without exerting force in the oposite direction (otherwise known as pushing).

While boxing out players push against each other. Period. If you can't accept that then we're just on 2 different planes and there's no use continuing.

[blindzebra]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

What about displacement then?

I thought you said boxing out is all about holding your position and not displacing an opponent?

There's no other way to hold your position without exerting force in the oposite direction (otherwise known as pushing).

While boxing out players push against each other. Period. If you can't accept that then we're just on 2 different planes and there's no use continuing.

So a player can't hold a position without exerting force?

A1 turns to rebound and establishes a position on that spot, that is HOLDING A POSITION. It is in the rules under every player is entitled to the spot on the floor as long as they obtained that position legally.

[Junker]

If I have a sumo match, both players are going to the bench because those little (or in most cases big) g-string whatevertheyarecalled that they wear are not legal uniforms. Boxing out is holding your position. Yes there is contact but no foul. Boxing out and pushing a player backwards is a foul. Like I said earlier, call it early and they won't do it. If a coach teaches players to do this, they are teaching them to foul and better have some subs ready for when players are fouling out.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by blindzebra

So a player can't hold a position without exerting force?

That's right. When it comes to rebounding action (at least) a player is going to have difficulty holding a position without exerting force.

That's a fact of life. But as I said, if you don't see this in your games then we're on 2 different planes and there's no need to it discuss further.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by Junker
If I have a sumo match, both players are going to the bench because those little (or in most cases big) g-string whatevertheyarecalled that they wear are not legal uniforms.

What's illegal about this uniform?

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

What's illegal about this uniform?

Can't read the player's number between the folds...

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by M&M Guy

Can't read the player's number between the folds...

See what donuts will do for ya??

[Forksref]

If the rebound falls off in the other direction, it's a no call unless you see too much contact. It's like "off the ball" plays in FB. Did it have any effect on the play? If not, it's a no-call.