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Originally posted by blindzebra
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Originally posted by David B
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Originally posted by blindzebra
This is not just about advantage/disadvantage, it is also about rough play...you know that POE we have every year.
Letting this stuff slide is what causes more stuff later on, get it the first time and the line is drawn.
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This is part of basketball - you are taught to block out you put a body on the guy.
As an official, there is of course disadvantage/advantage etc., that might be considered, but I don't see this as a preventative measure at all.
On every rebound there is contact, guys pushing, grabbing, moving their butt into other players etc.,
I don't see that as "rough play" anymore than I see a 5'3 guard putting a body on a player after the shot has been released.
Why should it be any different than in the paint? Its basketball and there will be lots of contact, but I don't see that by calling this a foul its going to clean the game up at all. Maybe its just me, but that's the way I see it.
Now if he puts the other player on the floor or something drastic that's different, but simply blocking out is not rough play.
Thanks
David
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Blocking out is holding YOUR position and NOT CREATING A NEW ONE by displacing another player.
FYI, grabbing, pushing, and moving their butts into another player during rebounding IS ILLEGAL CONTACT and not basketball.
Calling games the way you propose is why rough play is a point of emphasis every year.
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I don't believe I said anything at all about "creating a new space" - I'm talking about a block out in basketball.
It happens probably 50+ times in a game with good coaches, less than that in a game with poor coaches.
There is contact, but its not rough play.
As Mick said, if he moves the player out, call the foul, but as the rule book states about contact, there will be contact and some of it pretty rough in this game.
Keeping the game clean is all about knowing when to call the right foul on the right player, not simply calling every bit of contact a foul
Thanks
David