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Blocking out is holding YOUR position and NOT CREATING A NEW ONE by displacing another player.
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We agree that blocking out is holding your position.
Normally A1 holds his position against B1 & B1 holds his position against A1. They do this by pushing against each other with their bodies...it's senseless to "hold your position" if there's no one else trying to push you out of it.
That said, why should A1 be penalized because B1 fails to hold his own position and permits A1 to displace him?
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Then why call a charge since B1 failed to hold their legal position when A1 pushed through them?
I guess we won't call the push on B1 that sends A1 flying since A1 did not hold their position either.
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You're the one who said "Blocking out is holding your position and not creating a new on by displacing another player.", I merely agreed with you and took it to the logical next step.
Your series of "yeahbut-whatif" plays are not relevant at all to the scenario we're discussing.
Let's try again: if it's legal to "hold your position" while blocking out then against what, exactly, are you holding your position?
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Holding as in screening off, sealing, or keeping the opponent from getting to the ball without going through you.
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This seems to violate basic screening principles.
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That phrase in no way describes the sumo match you are suggesting, and yes by your "next logical step" the plays I gave are completely relevant.
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Sumo match is not a word I would use, but let's go with it. If A1 & B1 engage in a sumo match waiting for the rebound then unless there's discplacement there's no foul I take it.
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I'm not taking the bait.
You know it is not violating screening principles the way I described it, and playing up an obvious exaggeration to spin away from being busted on the other post, is not gonna cut it.
Bored or something?
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Being busted?
Honey, of all the things I worry about in this lifetime "being busted" on this forum is not even on the list.
So let's get back to the issue: you said "Blocking out is holding your position and not creating a new one by displacing another player."
Does this mean that A1 & B1 can legally engage in a sumo match (your words again) as long as there is no displacement?
Assuming screening principles are not violated of course.
And btw, I am very serious. [/B][/QUOTE]
You misrepresented what I said to having two players pushing against each other.
If I have a sumo match, I've got a double foul.