I am open to the possibility that I am the village idiot on this one, but I don't think so....

Player A shoots a jumpshot and lands. As soon as Player A lands Player B then sticks his butt into Player A and drives Player A back say 2 feet. I tweet , I got pushing. coach is very upset with me .Coach tells me that is good rebounding.

I am now noticing this occuring more and more.

Is my call legimate or I am seeing things ???/

Opinions please.

I use the following when it comes to that and all types of plays -

R - Reroute
I - Impede
D - Dislodge
D - Displace

Remember, everyone has a right to any spot on the floor, as long as they get there first legally. Forcing a player out of a spot is illegal. Good call.

Chess Ref,
I make that call with less frequency, every year.
mick

Boxing out is sealing your opponent NOT moving your opponent.

Feel free to use that sentence the next time you make the correct call and the coach questions it.:D

That is strictly a judgment call on your part. Obviously you did a good job of staying with the shooter. Only you can decide if it's worth a whistle or not.

Z

I agree with Mick
 

That's been taught for years and as Mick stated, I call it less all the time.

As long as it doesn't affect the shot I'm just treating it as incidental contact.

Thansk
David

I like that.

Re: I agree with Mick
 

Be careful here. First of all, it doesn't matter how long it's been taught. Second of all, you can't base that call entirely on whether or not it affects the shot (in fact, as described in the original post it will never affect the shot because the block-out happens after the ball is gone).

You need to decide if the box-out was enough contact to call a foul. Some of those plays are pretty minor. Others are hard enough that to not call it might lead to retaliation later and a much rougher game.

Z

Re: I agree with Mick
 

I think you missed Mick's the point.

Displacing A1 after the shot may not impact the shot, but it does hinder their ability to rebound, it leads to A1 letting B1 have it on the other end. It is not incidental contact if it hinders normal movement or leads to more rough play.

I agree with both Z's on this one. That displacement should be called like other "contact" situations--advantage/disadvantage.

I tend not to call it if A1 is a jump shooter 15 or more feet, and the ball doesn't rebound back to the shhoter or in the area of the original shot. I will call it more in the lane. A lot of the time, B1 will initiate this contact before the shooter returns to the floor. Gotta call that foul, and A1 to the line for two shots!!

Re: Re: I agree with Mick
 

blindzebra,
To clarify, I think David understood what I wrote. I need hard contact, unquestionable displacement and maybe even a touch of intent before I give a 24" displacement any consideration.
mick

Re: Re: Re: I agree with Mick
 

Sorry I was giving you more credit as it turns out.

That less than hard contact on this end leads to A1 doing the same to B1 on the other, which usually leads to B1 doing it harder the next time. That continues until you put a stop to it.

Call it the first time and the game does not need to be reeled back in.;)

I make this call, especially in the first half. Get it early and they will quit doing it. I agree that it leads to rough play. If you're letting a shooter get pushed around out front, he's going to get upset and start pushing back unless we take care of it.

Re: Re: Re: I agree with Mick
 

Exactly what I read into it

Thanks
David