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Old Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:12pm
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The NBA system feels that many officials who have worked extensive HS and college basketball schedules have picked up bad habits that have to be completely undone and/or have been exposed to a lot of bad advice from local veterans. If they see a brand new official working rec leagues or in some sort of camp and they like their look, athleticism, and run, they will snatch them up. They will want them to work games while they are part of the NBA Grassroots program, but they don't care what level they are working, they just want them to work games and see plays ...
Thanks Raymond. Great explanation regarding a topic that I was very unfamiliar with.

I naively believed that outstanding scholastic basketball officials became college basketball officials and that outstanding college basketball officials became professorial basketball officials; using their prior experience and success to move onto the next level.

Maybe that was true decades ago, but is, apparently, no longer true today.
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Old Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:22pm
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Maybe that was true decades ago, but is no longer true today.
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The days of them giving a D1 college guy an NBA opportunity are basically over just on watching them and giving them a shot ..
Times change. This is not your father's ladder any more.

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Old Tue Nov 23, 2021, 03:28pm
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Thanks Raymond. Great explanation regarding a topic that I was very unfamiliar with.

I naively believed that outstanding scholastic basketball officials became college basketball officials and that outstanding college basketball officials became professorial basketball officials; using their prior experience and success to move onto the next level.

Maybe that was true decades ago, but is no longer true today.
There are officials that worked their first D1 game that never worked a high school varsity game. IJS.

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Old Tue Nov 23, 2021, 04:02pm
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Maybe one can start officiating at the college level with no scholastic experience ...
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There are officials that worked their first D1 game that never worked a high school varsity game.
Thanks for sharing JRutledge.

Reminds me of the first soccer coach at the middle school that I taught at. Back then, not too many of my generation played soccer in high school. He was a baseball guy. The first soccer game he ever coached was, at the same time, the first soccer game he ever watched. Went on to a very successful soccer (and softball) coaching career at the high school.

Similar to some local scholastic basketball officials who added scholastic volleyball officiating to their repertoire and rapidly went on to scholastic volleyball officiating success (state tournament) with never having played a scholastic volleyball game (outside of a high school physical education class), in many cases the first scholastic volleyball game they worked was the first scholastic volleyball game they watched.

When you've got it, you've got it, some are just born with it.

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Old Tue Nov 23, 2021, 04:07pm
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It is a little more than that. Officials are being trained for the levels that supervisors or clinicians feel they are able to work. That again is the point I am making. There is a system in place to get officials to higher levels. That system seems to work for some they identify as having the ability. High school associations or assignors spend more time telling officials of a certain age how long they have to wait, while the college and pro levels cultivate that talent and use them.

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