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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:35am
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Neither jumper jumps

Question asked by a local official:

Suppose neither jumper jumps during the opening toss. The NOTE after 6-3-8 says that the jumpers will be ordered to jump if neither do. Suppose neither jump after being ordered to do so. What recourse does the R have?

Apparently, this scenario is possible in a postseason game because one team cedes the tip and uses the jumper and another player to trap the person who actually gets the ball. The other team has decided to not jump in order to not play into that game...
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:44am
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Double player technicals?
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:52am
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To start a game?? Even if this is OT, what kind of strange stategy is this? How about rather than I toss it between you two, I'll just throw it off one of you and then see what happens
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:52am
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Coin toss?

Oh wait, that's already been proposed.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 11:56am
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:03pm
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When you toss the ball and it comes down on the floor, grab it and go make a layup. Tell them you're going to continue to do this until they jump. Either they'll jump the next time, or you'll win the game!

Seriously though, does this fall under "actionless contest"?
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:04pm
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Double player technicals?
That would be interesting, but we'd still have a jump ball afterwards.
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I was thinking more 10-1, Art 5

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Double player technicals?
Team Technicals:

Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or
from being put in play. See 7-5-1 and 8-1-2 for the resumption-of-play
procedure to use after a time-out or the intermission between quarters. The
procedure is used prior to charging a technical foul in these specific
situations.

Of course, as Rich points out, if you do this, now what?
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 12:36pm
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Team Technicals:

Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or
from being put in play. See 7-5-1 and 8-1-2 for the resumption-of-play
procedure to use after a time-out or the intermission between quarters. The
procedure is used prior to charging a technical foul in these specific
situations.

Of course, as Rich points out, if you do this, now what?
Jump again. Double T again if you have to. Is this T indirect to the coach? 3 of those, and we have new head coaches, right?
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Jump again. Double T again if you have to. Is this T indirect to the coach? 3 of those, and we have new head coaches, right?
Nope no indirects
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:19pm
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After you get tired of throwing the ball without anyone jumping, just call a violation on one of the non-jumpers, award the other team the ball, and set the arrow that way. Even if you have to make up a violation it will work, the coaches dont have any idea what is or isnt a violation during the jump ball.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:36pm
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After you get tired of throwing the ball without anyone jumping, just call a violation on one of the non-jumpers, award the other team the ball, and set the arrow that way. Even if you have to make up a violation it will work, the coaches dont have any idea what is or isnt a violation during the jump ball.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:39pm
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Funny.
And true (and therefore sad) at the same time.

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I spent a wasted few minutes trying to explain to a partner why yelling out "hold your spots" to all the nonjumpers was not a smart thing to do.

He thinks I'm an idiot, I'm guessing.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:53pm
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Question asked by a local official:

Suppose neither jumper jumps during the opening toss. The NOTE after 6-3-8 says that the jumpers will be ordered to jump if neither do. Suppose neither jump after being ordered to do so. What recourse does the R have?

Apparently, this scenario is possible in a postseason game because one team cedes the tip and uses the jumper and another player to trap the person who actually gets the ball. The other team has decided to not jump in order to not play into that game...
Call 2 new players in for the face-off.
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Old Wed Feb 20, 2013, 01:59pm
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That would be interesting, but we'd still have a jump ball afterwards.
Yeah, but they'd be pretty motivated to jump, wouldn't they? Nobody wants to pick up his/her 2nd technical before the game even gets going.
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