Neither jumper jumps

[Rich]

Question asked by a local official:

Suppose neither jumper jumps during the opening toss. The NOTE after 6-3-8 says that the jumpers will be ordered to jump if neither do. Suppose neither jump after being ordered to do so. What recourse does the R have?

Apparently, this scenario is possible in a postseason game because one team cedes the tip and uses the jumper and another player to trap the person who actually gets the ball. The other team has decided to not jump in order to not play into that game...

[Scrapper1]

Double player technicals?

[letemplay]

To start a game?? Even if this is OT, what kind of strange stategy is this? How about rather than I toss it between you two, I'll just throw it off one of you and then see what happens

[rockyroad]

Coin toss?

Oh wait, that's already been proposed.

[APG]

Bat the ball off of one of the players

[Mark Padgett]

When you toss the ball and it comes down on the floor, grab it and go make a layup. Tell them you're going to continue to do this until they jump. Either they'll jump the next time, or you'll win the game!

Seriously though, does this fall under "actionless contest"?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Double player technicals?

That would be interesting, but we'd still have a jump ball afterwards.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Double player technicals?

Originally Posted by Rich

That would be interesting, but we'd still have a jump ball afterwards.

Yeah, but they'd be pretty motivated to jump, wouldn't they? Nobody wants to pick up his/her 2nd technical before the game even gets going.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Yeah, but they'd be pretty motivated to jump, wouldn't they? Nobody wants to pick up his/her 2nd technical before the game even gets going.

I don't buy this as a player technical, BTW, unless we're calling that for disobeying a directive of an official...

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't buy this as a player technical, BTW, unless we're calling that for disobeying a directive of an official...

I'm not sure what other reason you'd be calling a technical. Charging it to the player ensures a way out of the problem. Either someone's going to jump or the team with the fewest players is going to forfeit.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't buy this as a player technical, BTW, unless we're calling that for disobeying a directive of an official...

10-3-5-a???

"A player shall not: Delay the game by acts such as: Preventing the ball from being made live promptly or from being put in play."

So once we toss and they don't jump, we readminister and direct them both to jump...if they still won't jump, it seems like that falls under 10-3-5, no?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Rich

I don't buy this as a player technical, BTW, unless we're calling that for disobeying a directive of an official...

That's exactly what it's for. If you don't like it (and I can see not liking it...)

What would your solution be?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Rich

That would be interesting, but we'd still have a jump ball afterwards.

Do it again. They already have one T. The second one and they are gone.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Double player technicals?

Team Technicals:

Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or
from being put in play. See 7-5-1 and 8-1-2 for the resumption-of-play
procedure to use after a time-out or the intermission between quarters. The
procedure is used prior to charging a technical foul in these specific
situations.

Of course, as Rich points out, if you do this, now what?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Team Technicals:

Delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or
from being put in play. See 7-5-1 and 8-1-2 for the resumption-of-play
procedure to use after a time-out or the intermission between quarters. The
procedure is used prior to charging a technical foul in these specific
situations.

Of course, as Rich points out, if you do this, now what?

Jump again. Double T again if you have to. Is this T indirect to the coach? 3 of those, and we have new head coaches, right?