IL Test Question

[JRutledge]

The answer that I have is B. That is what we agreed on tonight at least.

I can verify that one, but that is what we had.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The answer that I have is B. That is what we agreed on tonight at least.

I can verify that one, but that is what we had.

Peace

And, thus, why I asked -- to see if I missed something, or mis-read the question or if I just disagree with the apparently official answer.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

A I missed something.
B) Misread the question.
C) Disagree with the apparently official answer.

My answer is C) Disagree with the apparently official answer (The AP arrow is set to team A's basket when the throw-in is completed).

4-3: Alternating-possession control is established and the initial direction of the possession arrow is set toward the opponent’s basket when:
ART. 3 The ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower after:
a. A violation during or following the jump before a player secures control.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Team A violates during the game's opening jump ball.

The AP arrow is set to team A's basket when the ball is placed at team B's disposal for the throw-in.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

And, thus, why I asked -- to see if I missed something, or mis-read the question or if I just disagree with the apparently official answer.

Are you saying "B" has been noted as the correct answer by the test-giving organization?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Are you saying "B" has been noted as the correct answer by the test-giving organization?

Apparently JRutledge has "verified" it. But his wording ("but") seems somewhat ambiguous.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

The answer that I have is B. That is what we agreed on tonight at least. I can verify that one, but that is what we had.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Are you saying "B" has been noted as the correct answer by the test-giving organization?

So I've been told. :shrug: -- stuff happens -- a similar question (with the correct answer) was on last year's test. maybe they changed the question and the new question didn't make it to the test along with the new answers, or maybe there were multiple drafts of the answers and an incorrect one got posted...

I'm more interested in learning / teaching the right rule than in assessing the question.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Raymond

Are you saying "B" has been noted as the correct answer by the test-giving organization?

If he is not saying that, I am saying that. It was considered to be the right answer at the time of my post.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

And, thus, why I asked -- to see if I missed something, or mis-read the question or if I just disagree with the apparently official answer.

I am not saying that is ultimately the right answer, but according to the information discussed, that was the answer. I think it is a bad question as many times there are bad questions. Clearly, it appears this is not correct based on what was stated earlier.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think it is a bad question as many times there are bad questions.

I actually liked the question, thought that it was well worded, thought provoking, and a good test of what we know.

I did not like that the correct answer was (probably), "None of the above".

Good questions deserve good answers, answers that help us to learn, or to show what we know.

Forty-five years ago, back in college, when I was preparing to become a teacher, we were taught to never have a multiple choice test question with "None of the above" as any answer.

“None of the above,” as either the correct or incorrect response, increases question difficulty without increasing discrimination between high and low-scoring students. If students can identify a likely option, “none of the above” is eliminated, reducing the number of distractors.

[BubbaRef]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

49. Team A violates during the game's opening jump ball. Which of the following is true?

A. The AP arrow is set to team B's basket when the throw-in is completed.

B. The AP arrow is set to team A's basket when the throw-in is completed.

C. The AP arrow is set to team B's basket when the ball is placed at team B's disposal for the throw-in.

D. None of the above.

The answer is B. I had this question 2 years ago and I answered C which was right then. So I answered C again and I got it wrong on this years test. Our association director called Kurt Gibson and he confirmed that the answer is B.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

49. Team A violates during the game's opening jump ball. Which of the following is true?
A. The AP arrow is set to team B's basket when the throw-in is completed.
B. The AP arrow is set to team A's basket when the throw-in is completed.
C. The AP arrow is set to team B's basket when the ball is placed at team B's disposal for the throw-in.
D. None of the above.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

4-3-3-A: Alternating-possession control is established and the initial direction of the possession arrow is set toward the opponent’s basket when: The ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower after: A violation during or following the jump before a player secures control.

This casebook play is close to the situation, but not exactly the same.

4.3.3 SITUATION: During the jump to start the game, A1 slaps the ball out of bounds. Before the ball is at B1’s disposal for a throw-in, B2 is charged with a technical foul. RULING: Team A will attempt two free throws followed by a division-line throw-in opposite the table. When the ball is at the disposal of the thrower of Team A, the arrow will be set pointing toward Team B’s basket.

Originally Posted by BubbaRef

The answer is B. Our association director called Kurt Gibson and he confirmed that the answer is B.

Then both of you are probably wrong.

The correct answer (I believe) is not listed as a multiple choice answer (the AP arrow is set to team A's basket when the ball is placed at team B's disposal for the throw-in), thus D) None of the above.

Just because Kurt Gibson hit one of the most exciting home runs in World Series history, why should we believe him about a basketball rule question? Wait ... I'm being told ... Kirk Gibson? Never mind.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BubbaRef

The answer is B. I had this question 2 years ago and I answered C which was right then. So I answered C again and I got it wrong on this years test. Our association director called Kurt Gibson and he confirmed that the answer is B.

Unfortunately your association director is incorrect. The arrow is set for Team A when the ball is placed at the disposal of Team B for the throw in.



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[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BubbaRef

The answer is B. I had this question 2 years ago and I answered C which was right then. So I answered C again and I got it wrong on this years test. Our association director called Kurt Gibson and he confirmed that the answer is B.

I'm pretty sure the question and / or answers changed slightly in the past two years (but I don't have the tests handy to check).

In any event -- your C on this year's test is clearly wrong. The state's official answer appears to be B (based on my discussions with certain individuals about the time I asked the question here), but the correct, rule-based answer is D.