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Old Tue Jul 13, 2021, 11:32am
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I am not saying to not ask questions here. I am saying that if you are struggling with the details of an issue in a rule that is outside of the original conversation, you have no one to bring that to other than this forum? And again no issue if you bring up an issue that is talked about, but you bring up something you are confused about and go on and on with yourself. We are not confused about that aspect of the rule. And we did not write the rule or sit on the committee to know why there is an issue or how it should be corrected. All I am saying is that if it is that much of an issue, talk to someone that you know in your organization. I do that often and no one even knows I had the conversation. I also have other forums to discuss things so when there is something that takes place that I want other opinions on, I can go there as well. I read stuff on this site I would never do and I will only explain what we are told here and if I need an interpretation that hard, I ask the folks I work with or answer to.

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Old Tue Jul 13, 2021, 11:40am
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Wouldn't It Be Nice (The Beach Boys, 1966) ...

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... we did not ... sit on the committee ...
Yeah. I know. Too bad. Wouldn't it be nice if somebody from the NFHS was a Forum member?
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Old Tue Jul 13, 2021, 01:57pm
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The NFHS Sometimes Does Listen To The Great Unwashed....

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...we did not write the rule ...
Speak for yourself. These have my fingerprints all over them. My fifteen seconds of fame. Will have them engraved on my tombstone.

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Old Tue Jul 13, 2021, 02:04pm
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Speak for yourself. These have my sticky fingerprints all over them. My fifteen seconds of fame. Will have them engraved on my tombstone.

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I said the people you were asking. Not referring to what you have done or not done. If that is what you have done, then you should be able to ask people that are higher than our pay grade about why a rule that has been in place for well over 20 years you should be able to ask those in positions, what should be done or why a rule are there in the first place?

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Old Tue Jul 13, 2021, 02:17pm
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... should be able to ask people that are higher than our pay grade about why a rule ...
It took a few days, but Nevadaref and Mike Goodwin came through when they were needed.

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Old Tue Jul 13, 2021, 02:22pm
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It took a few days, but Nevadaref and Mike Goodwin came through when they were needed.
One actually cited the relevant rule/case play and the other utilized the search options available to forum members. Someone with 40 years of officiating and 20K posts shouldn't need that type of spoon-feeding.
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Old Tue Jul 13, 2021, 02:30pm
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Piling On ...

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One actually cited the relevant rule/case play and the other utilized the search options available to forum members. Someone with 40 years of officiating and 20K posts shouldn't need that type of spoon-feeding.
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My big mistake was looking for guidance solely in the rulebook, and not including the casebook in my research ... I should have followed up with a deep dive into the casebook, but I didn't.
Go ahead. Keep piling on. I deserve it.

And I do consider Nevadaref above my pay grade, too early to tell for Mike Goodwin, but he probably is.
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Old Tue Jul 13, 2021, 03:36pm
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Awe ...

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And I do consider Nevadaref above my pay grade, too early to tell for Mike Goodwin, but he probably is.
I'm probably the lowest pay grade regular poster on the Forum. I'm often in awe of the rules expertise that is consistently presented on this forum.

And I'm definitely the most prolific poster.
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Old Tue Jul 13, 2021, 04:52pm
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Twenty Thousand Posts Under The Sea ...

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Someone with 40 years of officiating and 20K posts ...
I didn't realize that I had reached 20,000 posts.

No celebration? No cards? No gifts?

Is there a level above Esteemed Forum Member?
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Old Tue Jul 13, 2021, 02:25pm
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Not Even A Thank You ...

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If that is what you have done, then you should be able to ask people that are higher than our pay grade about why a rule ...
Thousands have suggested rule changes to the NFHS over the many years. Dozens, perhaps hundreds, have had their rule change suggestions approved part way, or all the way, up the ladder. I doubt that any of those get any special privileges, no personal phone numbers, no secret handshakes, no Christmas cards, etc. I know that I didn't, not even a thank you.
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