Legal Guarding position or Blocking Foul? (Video)

[JRutledge]

It would be one thing if he was leaning all the way over to make contact, but that is not what happened. It sounds like you are trying to require that he is totally still before any contact takes place. Sorry, but that is not how I read the rules on this situation.

Peace

[ilyazhito]

Would this be a block of the "straight block" variety or of the "block-point" (block because of restricted area) variety? I would have either, because the defender's right foot is in the restricted area when he is trying to establish position on the offensive player. I also have the defender failing to beat the offensive player to the spot before the offensive player goes airborne. Thus, I cannot call this play a charge.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

... I would have either, because the defender's right foot is in the restricted area when he is trying to establish position on the offensive player...

You must be watching this on a phone, because on my 19" desktop monitor the defender is clearly outside of the RA.

[ilyazhito]

Originally Posted by Raymond

You must be watching this on a phone, because on my 19" desktop monitor the defender is clearly outside of the RA.

I was watching the video on a laptop, and I had the defender in the RA (the "on or over" language comes to mind). Even if he were not in the RA, the defender still failed to beat the offensive player to the spot prior to the offensive player going airborne, so there would be a block anyway.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by ilyazhito

I was watching the video on a laptop, and I had the defender in the RA (the "on or over" language comes to mind). Even if he were not in the RA, the defender still failed to beat the offensive player to the spot prior to the offensive player going airborne, so there would be a block anyway.

He's not in the RA, and if you went to the monitor to review this play you would be getting it wrong by saying he's in the RA.

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[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Raymond

He's not in the RA, and if you went to the monitor to review this play you would be getting it wrong by saying he's in the RA.

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His right foot was certainly not in the RA. However, I'm not so sure about the left. It appears he may be out, but I can't say with 100% certainty from the angle we have that his heel was not over the RA.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It would be one thing if he was leaning all the way over to make contact, but that is not what happened. It sounds like you are trying to require that he is totally still before any contact takes place. Sorry, but that is not how I read the rules on this situation.

Peace

Nah, I don't care if he is still or not, but I want the body to be in the path before the shooter jumps as is required by the rule. If the body is still moving sideways or backwards, I don't care, I'll still have a PC if the body got into the path in time. Otherwise the defender has not met the requirements of LGP and I'm not fudging the requirements to favor a defender that is late if it means calling a charge instead. However, if it is an option, I might pass on the contact.

[CJP]

Punch it. PC.

[#olderthanilook]

PC. Slo mo confirms.

Extremely difficult play to rule on in real time, though. B1 made an outstanding athletic play to obtain LGP before A1 became an airborne shooter.