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Old Mon Dec 10, 2018, 08:31pm
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That's it, a total of $150 for two sports. Covers banquets, yearly rule and case books (some chapters also provide the biennial officials manual, others do not), scholarships to young officials to go to camps, etc..
Sounds like a real bargain. What are your game fees? How many varsity or subvarsity game fees to pay all your financial obligations.

For me it's equal to four subvarsity fees, or three varsity fees.

Yours sound like it's about one game fee.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2018, 08:14am
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Sounds like a real bargain. What are your game fees?
Billy, in the suburbs where I work, there are two leagues, although there are probably another 5-6 in Philadelphia and the western suburbs. There is a pay differential of ~$3 between the two leagues, and fees run from $49 for a single middle school game to mid/high-$70s for varsity. Some MS assignments are doubleheaders (12 minute halves) for $65, but most MS assignments are single games (6 minute quarters) for ~$50; 9th grade games are ~$54. We do not work doubleheaders, with the exception of the MS doubles I've mentioned.

I'm available for both afternoon and evening assignments, so I'm as busy as I care to be, 3-5 days a week (not including local youth leagues), in both soccer and basketball. And that's with a 20-mile travel limit on my arbiter accounts.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2018, 11:32am
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... a total of $150 for two sports. Covers banquets, yearly rule and case books (some chapters also provide the biennial officials manual, others do not), scholarships to young officials to go to camps, etc.
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... fees run from $49 for a single middle school game to mid/high-$70s for varsity.
Assuming $75 for basketball ($150/2 sports), your total financial obligation is equal to 1.5 subvarsity fees, or one varsity fee. That's about one third my total financial obligation and you seem to be getting all the benefits that I get. Your treasurer and finance committee deserve a tip of the hat. You certainly have the right to call my dues and fees exorbitant, you obviously don't live in a glass house.

Where do you hold your banquet, McDonald's or Burger King?

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Old Tue Dec 11, 2018, 12:48pm
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"Exorbitant" was not my word. I did say I was appalled, but I misread your explanation of the 7% fee.

In any event, we have a quite nice end-of-season banquet at a caterer's hall, with choice of entree (beef, fish, chicken), several vegetables (potatoes, beans, etc.), salad, dessert. I don't drink, so I'm not sure if the bar is open or cash; I think the former.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2018, 01:11pm
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... we have a quite nice end-of-season banquet at a caterer's hall, with choice of entrée (beef, fish, chicken), several vegetables (potatoes, beans, etc.), salad, dessert.
All that as part of your $75 total financial obligation? The administrative costs to run your association must be only about $45? Your treasurer and finance committee deserve two tips of the hat.

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... not sure if the bar is open or cash; I think the former.
Ours is an open bar. The four decade old ongoing corny joke on our board is to tell colleagues that we'll buy them a drink at the banquet. We're a bunch of real cheap bastards.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2018, 01:29pm
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I pay $65 to the state and $75 to our association. $10 of that goes to our scholarship fund. We do not have an assigners fee. Each individual school has to pay him.
I get 40-55 nights per year with almost all being double headers.
$60 per varsity game
$50 per sub varsity game
$0.50 per mile round trip paid to one driver
We do not have a banquet.
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Old Tue Dec 11, 2018, 02:11pm
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I pay $65 to the state and $75 to our association. We do not have an assigners fee. $60 per varsity game, $50 per sub varsity game, $0.50 per mile round trip paid to one driver, We do not have a banquet.
My round trip mileage last year was 739 miles, or a cost to me (based on your half ride reimbursement) of about $180. Of course I can deduct my mileage, from my taxes, you can't, so let's call it $150.00.

Let's subtract the $30 banquet portion of my dues.

That brings my total financial obligation to $370.00.

For comparison purposes, take away my $35 IAABO dues, so $335 total, or about five subvarsity fees, or about 3.5 varsity fees.

Your total financial obligation of $140.00 or about three subvarsity fees, or about 2.5 varsity fees.

Not as much of a bargain as LRZ, but still a tip of the hat to your treasurer and finance committee.

Ain't math fun?
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