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[QUOTE=justacoach;1025315]Ask your 2 resident NBA rules practitioners about having the hand under the ball and rolling the hand entirely to the top of the ball when dribbling, lol.
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where in the nba rules is there a difference in carrying the ball? maybe there is, but I doubt it.
he takes the ball behind the back in a manner that would be a dribble had it gone to the ground. the fact that he interrupts its path by catching it in the right means the key time is when it is caught in the right hand, not what happens to it in the left, in my mind. In any event, the NBA is on record as saying it's legal, and I'll bet there is no difference between the carrying rules in the 2 leagues. correct me if I'm wrong. |
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I am not disagreeing with the NBA's rule and how it was applied but...
This is like saying someone can stand there and toss, in an obviously controlled fashion, the ball from hand to hand repeatedly and move their pivot foot. Instead of tossing it from side to side repeatedly in front of him, he did it once in back. Some day the bigs are going to realize that this meneuver is legal and incorporate it into their low-post game. Now, a few guards do it. Some day, everyone will be doing it and it will look sooooooo weird. It just takes time because players' games are developed under the NFHS/NCAA rule sets, not the NBA.
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I don't agree, only the first is arguably the same motion as a behind the back dribble, and when it is caught in the other hand it's not a dribble. apparently that is the NBA interpretation as well. I don't believe there is a different interpretation, or at least wording, at the college level, but perhaps there is. I doubt it.
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FWIW, the highly trained professional who was present on the court during this action is a colleague of theirs. His professional judgement is, likewise, beyond reproach. He also received extensive early training and continuing tutelage from his dad. Maybe you'd like to take it up with his dad, Joe DeRosa. Any other questions?
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wrong , they said that he gathered and THEN took 2 steps. same as NCAA rule as far as I know
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It isn't the judgement being questioned rather the logic in applying one rule and possibly not another. The NBA explained the non-travel call. If only they explained many others. Won't happen because no one likes to be questioned. That would mean transparency, lol.
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I cannot speak for any of the 3rd parties involved but, as for myself, I would dissuade you from concerning yourself with advanced issues that are well beyond your current level of training, experience, philosophy, sophistication and salary level. Seems you have a way to go until you master the requisite skills and nuance pertinent to your current work environment. If you would like to experience some transparency, have a look at the daily report at 2017-18 NBA Officiating Last Two Minute Reports | NBA Official You may be able to begin to glean the answers to your impertinent questions.
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I think they try to make the travel more understandable with their change in the verbiage, but I don't see a difference in what a travel is. maybe someone out there can show me I'm wrong, and I might be. I am confident this 'gather' issue is seen in a lot of potential travel situations, even as simple as many layups, if you look closely. All high levels they want that called very loosely, from what I've seen, and I agree with that philosophy. |
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If you gather in the air, then come down with one foot, then the other foot, it's not a travel at either level. Maybe you thought I meant the gather took place with a foot on the floor, and then a one and a two. That would be a travel because the pivot foot returned, but any level worth talking about wants that gather given the benefit of the doubt.
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