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A1 makes a basket. B1 gets both feet out of bounds. Reaches to grab a bouncing ball(bouncing waste high) in front of him. When he tries to grab it he knocks it into court right to A1 who is 3 feet away. B1 never "possessed" the ball. Tried to but he was looking more where he was going to pass it. Kids freeze for a moment. What would you do at that moment? Blow whistle and give it back to B1 or nothing....or something else.
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I would probably blow it dead and reset, kind of like you would if you made a crappy bounce to a thrower who then muffed it. Innocent mishap.
The would-be thrower never truly had disposal. I’d be good with a reset here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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4-4-7-d: A ball is at the disposal of a player when it is: Available to a player after a goal and the official begins the throw-in count.
Was the count started? That's the key. Of course, this brings us back to the circular argument. When is the ball at the disposal of the player? When the official starts his count. When does the official start his count? When the ball is at the disposal of the player. Go figure.
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Suppose A1 is holding the ball and it slips out of his hands onto the Court. Not yet trying to pass to a teammate. You've started your count already. That isn't a "pass" into Court either. What would you do? Thx
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Play on. But, this is a different scenario from the OP.
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Yes, he does possess it in this second example. Why does that matter under rules? In the original OP the player is completely out of bounds. Count started, player touches ball giving it OB status, fumbles it 3 feet forward into Court. Because he's in a hurry to throw it in to open teammate.
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Yes, I agree control is not necessary for a legal throw in. Let me ask you, if the player does possess the ball and fumbles it into the Court, would u blow it dead and give it back to him? I would not even though he wasn't intending to throw ball in. So I'm not sure how much intent plays into it. Thx
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4-4-7-d: A ball is at the disposal of a player when it is: Available to a player after a goal and the official begins the throw-in count. Without a count, there is no disposal.
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