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Old Sun Dec 31, 2017, 05:32pm
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Play on. But, this is a different scenario from the OP.
Yes, he does possess it in this second example. Why does that matter under rules? In the original OP the player is completely out of bounds. Count started, player touches ball giving it OB status, fumbles it 3 feet forward into Court. Because he's in a hurry to throw it in to open teammate.
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2017, 08:33pm
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Yes, he does possess it in this second example. Why does that matter under rules? In the original OP the player is completely out of bounds. Count started, player touches ball giving it OB status, fumbles it 3 feet forward into Court. Because he's in a hurry to throw it in to open teammate.
The key is that control by the thrower is not necessary for a legal throw-in. Therefore it's all about judging the intent of the player. If he is trying to grab the ball and fumbles it, he's entitled to go and pick it up just like any other fumble, whether he was out of bounds or not. If he has control, then fumbles, it's all on him. And lastly, if he tries to tap the ball toward a teammate and it goes astray, that's all on him, too.
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2017, 08:51pm
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The key is that control by the thrower is not necessary for a legal throw-in. Therefore it's all about judging the intent of the player.
Yes, I agree control is not necessary for a legal throw in. Let me ask you, if the player does possess the ball and fumbles it into the Court, would u blow it dead and give it back to him? I would not even though he wasn't intending to throw ball in. So I'm not sure how much intent plays into it. Thx
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Old Sun Dec 31, 2017, 08:53pm
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Yes, I agree control is not necessary for a legal throw in. Let me ask you, if the player does possess the ball and fumbles it into the Court, would u blow it dead and give it back to him?
no
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Old Mon Jan 01, 2018, 01:55pm
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Yes, he does possess it in this second example. Why does that matter under rules? In the original OP the player is completely out of bounds. Count started, player touches ball giving it OB status, fumbles it 3 feet forward into Court. Because he's in a hurry to throw it in to open teammate.
The original scenario you did not say the count had started.

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