No try, ball dead on foul

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by deecee

Team A shoots and misses, A1 goes to rebound but the ball bounces off his shoulder and go in the basket.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Now, just for fun, who wants to talk about complicating factors while the ball is in flight toward the basket?

Originally Posted by just another ref

A1 leaps in the air and is clobbered before he can release the ball.

Let the fun begin.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Let the fun begin.

A1 passes the ball to A2, who isn't looking for the ball. The ball hits A2 on the shoulder, and bounces into the air ...

1) While the ball is in flight, before it goes into the basket, B3 fouls A3. The ball subsequently goes into the basket. Team A is not in the bonus. You make the call.

2) While the ball is in flight, before it goes into the basket, A3 fouls B3. The ball subsequently goes into the basket. Team B is not in the bonus. You make the call.

3) The ball is on the ring and B3 bats the ball off the ring. The ball does not go in the basket. You make the call.

4) While the ball is in flight, B3 touches the ball while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, and it has the possibility of entering the basket. The ball does not go in the basket. You make the call.

5) As the ball is bouncing off of A1's shoulder, B2 pushes A1, the ball subsequently goes into the basket. Team A is not in the bonus. You make the call.

6) As the ball is bouncing off of A1's shoulder, B3 pushes A3, the ball subsequently goes into the basket. Team A is not in the bonus. You make the call.

7) As the ball is bouncing off of A1's shoulder, A3 pushes B3, the ball subsequently goes into the basket. Team B is not in the bonus. You make the call.

8) While the ball is in flight, before it goes into the basket, the horn sounds to end the period. The ball subsequently goes into the basket. You make the call.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by deecee

Please stop.

Please back off the statement below:

Originally Posted by deecee

If a ball goes in the basket, and I'm officiating, then the intent was to score.

Please explain what statement of mine lead one to believe that I wouldn't count the basket (below):

Originally Posted by deecee

Team A shoots and misses, A1 goes to rebound but the ball bounces off his shoulder and go in the basket. Go ahead, cancel the goal. I'll love watching the youtube videos of you go viral.

Usually, the ball enters the basket as the result of a try, but sometimes it doesn't. When that rare event happens, it's important to understand the ramifications of the rule.

Originally Posted by just another ref

Billy's example is obviously an extreme one. But intent is obviously a question which sometimes must be answered.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

A1 passes the ball to A2, who isn't looking for the ball. The ball hits A2 on the shoulder, and bounces into the air, eventually passing through the basket. No complicating factors like end of period, foul, etc.

Originally Posted by deecee

Team A shoots and misses, A1 goes to rebound but the ball bounces off his shoulder and go in the basket. Go ahead, cancel the goal.

NFHS rules. No complicating factors like end of period, foul, etc. Why (in either situation above) would I cancel this goal? Why would any official even think about canceling this goal? Why would deecee think that I would cancel this goal and become a YouTube viral sensation? Why would deecee think that any official worth his salt on this Forum would even consider canceling this goal?