No try, ball dead on foul
Tonight in game 3 Lebron tried to lob it into the post, Love was fouled while the ball was in the air, and it went it. I think everybody in the building agreed it was a pass. Announcers were saying it didn't matter, you can't judge intent, etc. and resident NBA officiating expert Steve Javey agreed it was the right call. So the NBA rule is different then? You obviously can/must judge intent at times in all levels. So, in NFHS, the basket doesn't count.
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Most times NBA rules differ. They counted the basket and Love then shot one free throw. Would you ever award one free throw to a player who is being fouled while his teammate is in the act of shooting in NFHS? That is the NBA rule.
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Section 1. ART. 1 . . . A goal is made when a live ball enters the basket from above and remains in or passes through. No goal is scored if an untouched throw-in goes through the basket. |
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The difference between a try that results in a goal and a non-try that results in a goal is all about intent. |
It's Not That Simple ...
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The ball went in the basket. Was there an intent to score? 4-41 SHOOTING, TRY, TAP ART. 1 The act of shooting begins simultaneously with the start of the try or tap and ends when the ball is clearly in flight, and includes the airborne shooter. ART. 2 A try for field goal is an attempt by a player to score two or three points by throwing the ball into a team’s own basket. A player is trying for goal when the player has the ball and in the official’s judgment is throwing or attempting to throw for goal. It is not essential that the ball leave the player’s hand as a foul could prevent release of the ball. ART. 3 The try starts when the player begins the motion which habitually precedes the release of the ball. ART. 4 The try ends when the throw is successful, when it is certain the throw is unsuccessful, when the thrown ball touches the floor or when the ball becomes dead. ART. 5 A tap for goal is the contacting of the ball with any part of a player’s hand(s) in an attempt to direct the ball into his/her basket. ART. 6 A tap shall be considered the same as a try for field goal, except as in 5-2-5. ART. 7 The tap starts when the player’s hand(s) touches the ball. ART. 8 The tap ends in exactly the same manner as a try. Now, just for fun, who wants to talk about complicating factors while the ball is in flight toward the basket? |
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Go ahead, cancel the goal. I'll love watching the youtube videos of you go viral. |
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Billy's example is obviously an extreme one. But intent is obviously a question which sometimes must be answered. A1 leaps in the air and is clobbered before he can release the ball. You must decide whether to award 2 shots or not. So why is the OP any different? You must decide whether to count the basket or wave it off. |
Back to the original question, which is: What, if anything, causes a ball in flight to be dead in the NBA?
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Why ??? Why ??? Why ??? Why ???
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Billy's Funhouse ...
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