HIJAB ISSUE IN MARYLAND PLAYOFF GAME

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Actually in this case, it appears that it hadn't been addressed all season. The play-off crew properly addressed it and the state governing body threw them under the bus, as Rich stated.

This falls on the servicing association (MultipleSports??) and the school's AD. Both or either should have addressed this with the state governing body way back in December.

Easy big boy !!!! Not my group or sport !!!!. That comment will cost you lunch in MAY !!!!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Multiple Sports

Easy big boy !!!! Not my group or sport !!!!. That comment will cost you lunch in MAY !!!!

But they are your friends, hahaha.

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[bucky]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

The call in question is at about the 1:45:30 mark... not a good angle on the initial view, but the replay at 1:46:15ish shows it clearly.

Also, white coach should've been whacked before the free throws for the foul... he was on the floor, across midcourt, nearly all the way to the black team's free throw line.

Lol, I was too focused on the black/red leg/arm sleeves on 2 players for the home team.

I could go on and on about the hijab issue. I have had games with that situation and each time the team provided the direct documentation. How could that many officials not inform the school/state association/other officials/the player/AD/etc? How could it not be common knowledge that that school had a player wearing one and it not be addressed waaaaaay in advance? How could the state association react that way? How could all of the previous officials not be disciplined in some way? Why would the state association care about the NFHS when they can create their own allowed deviation from the rule just as shot clocks, coaching boxes, and other rules are? How could the AD not have investigated at the beginning of the school year when discovering a student might possibly participate? How could the player/coach/parents not have inquired with all school officials before the season began? Why didn't the player remove it to play? Oh, you mean she did not want to deviate from her religion's rule but they all want the officials to deviate from the rules? (yea, that is a little extreme but still) OK, rant over and it appears that i did go on and on anyway. Sorry, no need for anyone to respond to me, just bugs me big time when something negative happens to a student athlete as the result of a whole bunch of people (adults) not acting appropriately. I will expect fine coming for post containing too many words

[Robmoz]

Originally Posted by chymechowder

Not to derail, but I saw this today and thought it was related--at least along the garbage lines of suggesting racial bias on the part of the officials:

HIJAB ISSUE IN MARYLAND PLAYOFF GAME

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...=.e5f287fdece4

"But we've done this all year and it's never been a problem" / "That hasn't been called a foul all season" is one of my favorite refrains from coaches.

Hmm, you did successfully derail the thread.

[Redneck Ref]

I have to agree with Camron Rust. As an evaluator during the state championships I would have marked down the crew without addressing the issue. WA state plays multiple sites and has a state representative during the state championship games that would make a decision on this situation before the game started. It would then be out of the hands of the crew. If you don't follow the rule book and an injury occurs from the hijab during play it puts the crew in a situation where they could be included in a lawsuit. I've heard of instances where the crew was included in lawsuits because they didn't follow the rule book. Don't put your crew in this situation.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Redneck Ref

I have to agree with Camron Rust. As an evaluator during the state championships I would have marked down the crew without addressing the issue. WA state plays multiple sites and has a state representative during the state championship games that would make a decision on this situation before the game started. It would then be out of the hands of the crew. If you don't follow the rule book and an injury occurs from the hijab during play it puts the crew in a situation where they could be included in a lawsuit. I've heard of instances where the crew was included in lawsuits because they didn't follow the rule book. Don't put your crew in this situation.

Can't they just say "other refs didn't enforce the rule" as their defense though?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by deecee

Can't they just say "other refs didn't enforce the rule" as their defense though?

Sure, if they want to lose.

[CJP]

Originally Posted by Redneck Ref

I have to agree with Camron Rust. As an evaluator during the state championships I would have marked down the crew without addressing the issue. WA state plays multiple sites and has a state representative during the state championship games that would make a decision on this situation before the game started. It would then be out of the hands of the crew. If you don't follow the rule book and an injury occurs from the hijab during play it puts the crew in a situation where they could be included in a lawsuit. I've heard of instances where the crew was included in lawsuits because they didn't follow the rule book. Don't put your crew in this situation.

I guess the sky is falling. Seriously, if our liability was so high then we would be seeing tort claims against officials more common and organized youth sports would cease to exist. Do lawsuits happen? Yes, it happens (after reading your post I did some research). After doing a little research, I would still let this kid play.

I think it is silly to use the threat of a lawsuit here. I mean, I would hate to see a coach out of his box all night long and we ignore it and a kid hits him and get injured. I cannot imagine a serious injury happening as a result of this kid wearing the hijab in the picture that would be more serious than a kid hitting a coach standing on the floor while running full speed. I know - strawman but give me a break. Lawsuit = joke.

[MD Longhorn]

Those who would let this player in the game in violation of a rule are not likely advance in their careers AND are setting themselves up for problems.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

Those who would let this player in the game in violation of a rule are not likely advance in their careers AND are setting themselves up for problems.

Now that's a bit dramatic. There are plenty of times we see the uniform rule(s) not applied and those officials, at all levels, seem to do just fine. It all depends on your assignors to be honest. Most don't make such a huge deal over these types of issues. However if they want a reason to cut you you essentially give them a freebie.

[CJP]

Originally Posted by deecee

Now that's a bit dramatic. There are plenty of times we see the uniform rule(s) not applied and those officials, at all levels, seem to do just fine. It all depends on your assignors to be honest. Most don't make such a huge deal over these types of issues. However if they want a reason to cut you you essentially give them a freebie.

I agree. If you call a great game then this would not even be a speed bump. On the other spectrum, if an assignor didn't care for you, something like this could effect your assignments or lack thereof.