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member who may participate and designate the five starting players at least 10 minutes before the scheduled starting time. 4-34-4: A team member is a member of bench personnel who is in uniform and is eligible to become a player. 4-34-2: Bench personnel are all individuals who are part of or affiliated with a team, including, but not limited to: substitutes, coaches, manager(s) and statistician(s). During an intermission, all team members are bench personnel for the purpose of penalizing unsporting behavior.
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No one I work for cares who was dressed and when, just be in the book if you do play. And I have worked college games where we've T'd for players being entered into book after the game started and for an incorrect number.
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Injured Kid Not In Uniform On The Bench ???
Agree, even though it's contrary to the stupid IAABO refresher exam interpretation.
But how about the injured kid not in uniform on the bench (this is the kid whose name my partner had erased)? Do the NFHS rules address that? 10-1-1: A team shall not: Fail to supply the scorer with the name and number of each team member who may participate and designate the five starting players at least 10 minutes before the scheduled starting time. 4-34-4: A team member is a member of bench personnel who is in uniform and is eligible to become a player So, would it be legal, or illegal, for the scorebook roster to include an adult assistant coach who is on the bench (bench personnel but not a team member), not eligible to play, and not in uniform? (Stupid question, but sometimes extremes can clear things up that are otherwise muddled.) Erase, or ignore? (Pretend its a written test question.)
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The rules say you have to list each team member. It doesn't say you can only list team members. So it's a lower limit, not an exact requirement.
There is no rule which prevents bench personnel from being listed in the scorebook. Around here, it's hit and miss with partners who want to cross out anyone not present/not in uniform.. Edit: And furthermore, the team isn't responsible for what goes in the scorebook anyways. It's only responsible for the list provided to the scorer. Although the argument there is the same: at least all the team members, no upper limit. Last edited by Eastshire; Tue Jan 26, 2016 at 08:08am. |
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More Than One ???
Eastshire: You've seen this before, with multiple colleagues? So this really isn't an exercise in counting angels on the head of a pin?
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![]() I think you're trying to hard to justify your partner's decisions here. That's admirable, but futile.
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From games last Friday...
C Team (freshman) game and JV game going on at the same time in adjacent gyms. Player is playing first half of C team game and second half of JV game. So he is listed in both books. According to BillyMac's partner, we would have to erase his name from the JV book since he is not warming up with them. And then we would have to issue a T for adding his name to the JV book in the second half. Good luck with that. |
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For your information, I asked the same question to my local interpreter. He said more names are better than fewer names.
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