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Injured Kid Not In Uniform On The Bench ???
Agree, even though it's contrary to the stupid IAABO refresher exam interpretation.
But how about the injured kid not in uniform on the bench (this is the kid whose name my partner had erased)? Do the NFHS rules address that? 10-1-1: A team shall not: Fail to supply the scorer with the name and number of each team member who may participate and designate the five starting players at least 10 minutes before the scheduled starting time. 4-34-4: A team member is a member of bench personnel who is in uniform and is eligible to become a player So, would it be legal, or illegal, for the scorebook roster to include an adult assistant coach who is on the bench (bench personnel but not a team member), not eligible to play, and not in uniform? (Stupid question, but sometimes extremes can clear things up that are otherwise muddled.) Erase, or ignore? (Pretend its a written test question.)
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The rules say you have to list each team member. It doesn't say you can only list team members. So it's a lower limit, not an exact requirement.
There is no rule which prevents bench personnel from being listed in the scorebook. Around here, it's hit and miss with partners who want to cross out anyone not present/not in uniform.. Edit: And furthermore, the team isn't responsible for what goes in the scorebook anyways. It's only responsible for the list provided to the scorer. Although the argument there is the same: at least all the team members, no upper limit. Last edited by Eastshire; Tue Jan 26, 2016 at 08:08am. |
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I know of no IAABO interpretation that states that if a team member in not present that team member's name cannot be listed in the score book. There is no NFHS or NCAA interpretation that prevents at team from having more names in the book than it has dressed at the start of the game. MTD, Sr.
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Like someone else said, it doesn't preclude listing someone that isn't present. It doesn't even require all those that are present and in uniform to be listed (only if they play).
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Like others have said, there's a lot of reasons why someone might be listed in the scorebook who isn't warming up on the court. Off the top of my head:
Forgot their uniform, and they're waiting for Mom/Dad/assistant coach #14 to drop it off. Still in the locker room attending to personal business, getting extra stretching, or treatment of an injury. Performing in a band concert (This has happened to me in my high school days) Stuck in traffic 5 miles from the game site. Suspended by the coach for the first half of the game Broken shoelace Shall I go on? RE: assistant coach listed in the scorebook: I don't know, nor do I care, about the names of assistant coaches (or players, for that matter)... If #43 is listed in the scorebook and it turns out #43 is an adult assistant coach, and #43 actually plays in the game... well, then the opposing team gets to file an incident report with the state. Same thing would happen if #43 was an actual team member who had gone over the daily/yearly participation limits set by the state. |
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I think you're trying to hard to justify your partner's decisions here. That's admirable, but futile.
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