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Old Fri Jun 18, 2010, 08:53am
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I don't understand. If the strike is called immediately on the swing, the strikeout is the second out and the run scores since the third out was a time play. But if the strike is called on appeal, the strikeout becomes the third out and the run doesn't score.

Is this "second out becomes the third out" principle covered in one of the usual reference books (J/R, BRD)? I can't find it.
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Old Fri Jun 18, 2010, 09:01am
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It just seems that this appeal is different from a "normal" appeal of say a missed base.

My thinking also. R2, R1, one out. Batter hits a double but misses 1B. R2 and R1 score, but R1 missed 3B. Regardless of who missed a base first, if the defense appeals R1's miss of 3B and then the BR's miss of 1B, the run is nullified. But if they appeal in reverse order, the run counts. But that's because on a missed base, you're not out until you're called out on appeal. With a strikeout, I would say you're out when you struck out, not after the umpires talk it over and decide you struck out.

But that's just my own logic, which isn't always the same as the rulesmakers'.
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Old Fri Jun 18, 2010, 10:20am
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I would say the strikeout is the 2nd out and the play at 3B is the 3rd; thus, the run scores.

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